Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[Zantera]

Road Salts have some very good songs. The Physics of Gridlock sucks though, in my opinion. They closed one of the shows I saw them live with it, and it was the most boring eight minutes of their shows ever.

I'd take that song over Rope Ends or Beyond the Pale personally.

[Evermind]

Yeah, but our tastes are so far apart I'm not surprised by that in the slightest

[Elite]

Road Salts have some very good songs. The Physics of Gridlock sucks though, in my opinion. They closed one of the shows I saw them live with it, and it was the most boring eight minutes of their shows ever.

I'd take that song over Rope Ends or Beyond the Pale personally.

That's a stretch, but I think it's a great track.

Innocence is the one that sucks.

[Adami]

Road Salts have some very good songs. The Physics of Gridlock sucks though, in my opinion. They closed one of the shows I saw them live with it, and it was the most boring eight minutes of their shows ever.

Is that the one where he speaks for a while in French?

Forget BE. That might be the most pretentious Daniel thing yet.

[Elite]

It's that one.

[Zantera]

Road Salts have some very good songs. The Physics of Gridlock sucks though, in my opinion. They closed one of the shows I saw them live with it, and it was the most boring eight minutes of their shows ever.

I'd take that song over Rope Ends or Beyond the Pale personally.

That's a stretch, but I think it's a great track.

Innocence is the one that sucks.

I think my controversial PoS take would be that as much as I like Remedy Lane, it never clicked for me beyond that point and would not make my top3 PoS albums. (those would be BE, TPE and Entropia)

[Kwyjibo]

I really like Road Salt 1, but Innocence is not a good closer, starts strong but the chorus totally kills it. Road Salt 2, although it is in the same vein, has left me mostly cold.

Forget BE. That might be the most pretentious Daniel thing yet.

BE is the very definition of pretentiousness. 

[Pettor]

I feel like listening to POS not expecting it to be pretentious is at this point like going to Marvel movie not expecting over the top action 

That said BE is fantastic. Nihil Morari is top 10 favorite songs ever in my book.

[goo-goo]

I've revisited Entropia and One Hour by the Concrete Lake this past couple of days on my ways to and from work/home. Really didn't appreciate OHBTCL when it was released. I'm really liking it a lot.

[Ben_Jamin]

Coincidentally, 'BE' just arrived in the mail. I finally snapped about getting this cd. I have always listened to the Live version. I only have heard the studio on Spotify.

[Kram]

Any of you guys have 12:05?  I just recently picked this up.  Pretty cool live acoustic show with more of their ballady/melodic tracks from Entropia - Remedy Lane. 

[Adami]

Any of you guys have 12:05?  I just recently picked this up.  Pretty cool live acoustic show with more of their ballady/melodic tracks from Entropia - Remedy Lane.

This was actually my first album from them. It did NOT connect with me at first...at all. I thought it was just odd, but then again, I wasn't familiar with any of the songs before. Once I got into Entropia-Remedy Lane, 12:5 really clicked. I love that album. I love whenever PoS change up their songs like that. It's usually really creative and unique.

[Zantera]

12:5 is probably the best thing they have done IMO

[Kram]

Any of you guys have 12:05?  I just recently picked this up.  Pretty cool live acoustic show with more of their ballady/melodic tracks from Entropia - Remedy Lane.

This was actually my first album from them. It did NOT connect with me at first...at all. I thought it was just odd, but then again, I wasn't familiar with any of the songs before. Once I got into Entropia-Remedy Lane, 12:5 really clicked. I love that album. I love whenever PoS change up their songs like that. It's usually really creative and unique.

I can see that.  My experience is the exact opposite - I've have had all these albums for years, so it immediately clicked.  Great melodies and great vocal performance from Daniel throughout.  This was probably him at his peak vocal prowess.

[jammindude]

I'm very lukewarm on 12:5. Some performances are great, and the CD as a whole is an interesting setlist and performance. But the acappella section of Winning a War sounds WAY off key to me, and it kind of kills an otherwise interesting version.

I'm not sure if someone is off key, or there was a choice of a note on the fly that just didn't work with what everyone else is doing (I've seen that happen in a live setting before) but there's a couple of brief notes in that section that are just dreadful.

[Dedalus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wc3yjwfyKM

New song - Panther

Let the games begin...

[Evermind]

I thought this was alright after one listen. Definitely not on the level of Accelerator but I like it more than Restless Boy.

I probably won't listen to it more and just wait for the whole album to drop.

[Bentower]

That was a rough listen. Seems catchy enough, but I can't say this is what I look for in music, especially not Pain of Salvation's.

Fred Durst verse = a hard
Tori Amos chorus = a light

[abydos]

Fred Durst? More like Eminem imitation to me. Not my thing at all, cool for a spin, perhaps two. But this song won't get any playtime from me in the future.

[Pettor]

I thought it was great on first listen! But I am also 100% in on the rap thing Daniel goes for. Not that I think he is a good rapper, I just like it anyway. However this is the best version of that. Rap on Scarsick had awesome flow but I could ofc hear that it wasn't perfect. This is a much better version more fitting for Daniel imo. Cool song! Really look forward to Panther and enjoy the style it seems to take.

[Bentower]

IMO, his rapping has gotten increasingly more irksome after the likes of Used, Diffidentia et al. I hadn't missed it post-Scarsick.

[ChuckSteak]

I found the 3 songs to be really underwhelming. Disappointed so far.

[Kyo]

I've revisited Entropia and One Hour by the Concrete Lake this past couple of days on my ways to and from work/home. Really didn't appreciate OHBTCL when it was released. I'm really liking it a lot.

One Hour by the Concrete Lake is great and quite interesting musically. It's a pity that given the chance to remix and remaster one of their older albums, they went with Remedy Lane (which has always sounded fine) rather than One Hour with its harsh production.

[Pettor]

I've revisited Entropia and One Hour by the Concrete Lake this past couple of days on my ways to and from work/home. Really didn't appreciate OHBTCL when it was released. I'm really liking it a lot.

One Hour by the Concrete Lake is great and quite interesting musically. It's a pity that given the chance to remix and remaster one of their older albums, they went with Remedy Lane (which has always sounded fine) rather than One Hour with its harsh production.

Well I think it makes sense since Remedy Lane is just such a fan favorite. I loved the remix of RL and have increased the number of listens quite dramatically for me. I would love remixes of OHBTCL and Entropia but it's just not albums that ever gonna grow to the point where they stand a chance against TPE or RL for me and I guess a lot of fans. So what I mean is that if you release a remix that you want a lot of spins from RL makes a lot more sense.

[Phoenix87x]

What I am hearing with song 3 is it starts off sounding like early Linkin Park and then I can sort of hear Eminem and maybe even some Korn, like how jonathan davis sings. Like this one best so far I guess.

6 more songs to explore 

[goo-goo]

I'm actually digging this one. Sounds refreshing. This is the 1st PoS single I listen to. I will wait for the rest of the album.

[Elite]

Like this one best so far I guess.

Definitely! This really has me intrigued for the full thing now. Like with the other singles, one listen is enough for now.

[Adami]

Love it. Minus the meh production.

These videos on the other hand.......eesh.

[Kram]

I'm very lukewarm on 12:5. Some performances are great, and the CD as a whole is an interesting setlist and performance. But the acappella section of Winning a War sounds WAY off key to me, and it kind of kills an otherwise interesting version.

I'm not sure if someone is off key, or there was a choice of a note on the fly that just didn't work with what everyone else is doing (I've seen that happen in a live setting before) but there's a couple of brief notes in that section that are just dreadful.

Yes, I hear it - and hear some other off key backing vocals throughout.  But Daniel mostly sounds excellent on this from what I can tell.

[Kram]

Probably my least favorite of the 3 singles so far.  Won't listen to it again until the albums out so I can hear it in context with the rest of the songs.  Still excited about this release though, as I really dug the first two tunes

[NoseofNicko]

Anyone knows a good US site where I could pre-order the Panther mediabook? I'd just like the best site possible. Would the Century Media site be a good choice?

[goo-goo]

Anyone knows a good US site where I could pre-order the Panther mediabook? I'd just like the best site possible. Would the Century Media site be a good choice?

https://www.lasercd.com/cd/panther-2cd-mediabook-preorder

[Kram]

Okay, here we go -

1. The Perfect Element Pt. 1
2. Remedy Lane
3. Entropia
4. In the Passing Light of Day
5. BE
6. One Hour by the Concrete Lake
7. Road Salts One
8. Road Slats Two
9. Scarsick

[jammindude]

Okay, here we go -

1. The Perfect Element Pt. 1
2. Remedy Lane
3. Entropia
4. In the Passing Light of Day
5. BE
6. One Hour by the Concrete Lake
7. Road Salts One
8. Road Slats Two
9. Scarsick

I would swap 7 and 9. But other than that, this would be my list

EDIT - also the entire pack of 4 thru 6 are so close that they would shuffle randomly depending on my mood that day

[Zantera]

1. BE
2. The Perfect Element
3. Entropia
4. In the Passing Light of Day
5. Road Salt 2
6. Remedy Lane
7. One Hour By the Concrete Lake
8. Road Salt 1
9. Scarsick