*OFFICIAL* A Dramatic Turn Of Events discussion thread -- **SPOILER ALERT!!!**

[FlyingBIZKIT]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

MP really didn't use them much.

[SystematicThought]

He used them mainly in fills. Live he used them quite a bit.

[Jamesman42]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

Well, he can't since he is no longer in the band.

[johncal]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

He could of if he could play them as fast as MM. When JP said they sounded like machine guns he wasn't kidding. The roll in BITS is astounding.

[SystematicThought]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

Well, he can't since he is no longer in the band.

What???!!! 

[XianL]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

Well, he can't since he is no longer in the band.

What???!!! 

You've got to be trolling, it's been over a year.

[SystematicThought]

Yes of course I'm just kidding. I was just discussing a few posts above about Mangini

[BlackInk]

What???!!! 

You've got to be trolling, it's been over a year.

[kirksnosehair]

Been a while now, I've probably got about 30 to 35 spins of this album under my belt.  A few times with my Audio Technica noise canceling headphones.

This album is probably going to rank #3 on my list of Dream Theater's catalog, with Images & Words and Scenes From a Memory being 1 and 2.  I just did not believe that Dream Theater still had an album like this in them.

[EstyMaJ]

I have listen to this at least 40 times since i got it and i am going to see them In OCT in Boston and i would be so friggin happy if they just played the whole album I just keeps getting better and better , one thing I noticed today while listing to OTBOA I think this one was one that was just ok with me for a while but now I really like it more , anyway i think i will be going crazy every song they play that night , this will be my 8th time seeing them and have never been more excited to see em!!

NOw to just hook up with better seats then i got 

[TAC]

This album is probably going to rank #3 on my list of Dream Theater's catalog, with Images & Words and Scenes From a Memory being 1 and 2.

Same here...

  i am going to see them In OCT in Boston and i would be so friggin happy if they just played the whole album 

... and here!

[EstyMaJ]

This album is probably going to rank #3 on my list of Dream Theater's catalog, with Images & Words and Scenes From a Memory being 1 and 2.

Same here...

  i am going to see them In OCT in Boston and i would be so friggin happy if they just played the whole album 

... and here!

Any talks of members here meeting up before the show?

[johncal]

I have listen to this at least 40 times since i got it and i am going to see them In OCT in Boston and i would be so friggin happy if they just played the whole album I just keeps getting better and better , one thing I noticed today while listing to OTBOA I think this one was one that was just ok with me for a while but now I really like it more , anyway i think i will be going crazy every song they play that night , this will be my 8th time seeing them and have never been more excited to see em!!

NOw to just hook up with better seats then i got 

I think most of us just really overplayed OTBOA. Now that the play time of everything else on the album has caught up, OTBOA is regaining it's proper stature.

[PixelDream]

I'd rank it 7th I guess. I really like it, but everytime I play a random old song that hits me way harder. I put on 'The Root of All Evil' and shit starts rockin'. 'These Walls' or 'Sacrificed Sons'. Three random tracks from Octavarium and the sound is just way more.. beautiful. Better melodies. I'm really not sold on ADTOE's melodies or musical themes. Let alone that they're better than the 'classic' DT albums.

Dont' get me wrong, ADTOE is fine. But I don't think it's the grand return to form.

[GasparXR]

Hey guys my CD/DVD still isn't here

But anyway, it has sunk in fully and I feel that it has tied with SFAM in my first place.

[Kiril Varbanov]

Am I the only one who enjoys the music without comparing it?
ADTOE is an EPIC album, especially the "Breaking all illusions". Personal review of the album coming soon.

[DreamTension]

I have listen to this at least 40 times since i got it and i am going to see them In OCT in Boston and i would be so friggin happy if they just played the whole album I just keeps getting better and better , one thing I noticed today while listing to OTBOA I think this one was one that was just ok with me for a while but now I really like it more , anyway i think i will be going crazy every song they play that night , this will be my 8th time seeing them and have never been more excited to see em!!

NOw to just hook up with better seats then i got 

Keep checking Ticket Master, daily, the last few days leading up to the show. Most likely they will release the unsold Meet and Greet tickets and you can pick one up in the first 5 rows.  Last tour I got  3rd row the morning of the show. 

[BlobVanDam]

I can't be bothered digging through threads, but here is good enough.

Here's a decent quality version of the live cartoon intro-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqgiCJLuDGE

[bosk1]

Not bad.  He misses the very beginning, and has a tendency to let the camera wander, which is frustrating.  But overall, not a bad video.  And the sound is also pretty impressive.  Man, I can't wait for a video release from this tour!  Heck, I might even try to see them again if they come back through here on another leg.

[Bacong]

[fadetoblackdude7]

Not bad.  He misses the very beginning, and has a tendency to let the camera wander, which is frustrating.  But overall, not a bad video.  And the sound is also pretty impressive.  Man, I can't wait for a video release from this tour!  Heck, I might even try to see them again if they come back through here on another leg.

This

[bosk1]

[GasparXR]

I think he's planning to make an epic Minecraft creation related to ADTOE. But I don't see it besides the obvious bridge in the sky.

[Scard]

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[DarkLord_Lalinc]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

MP really didn't use them much.

He really used them just to make his fills sound larger.

[fadetoblackdude7]

The octobans on this album are excellent. I wish MP used them in the music like this

MP really didn't use them much.

I actually think he over-used them on SC. Every fill it seems like.

[Shattered Glass]

This month's (or maybe last month for you guys in the US) edition of Total Guitar has JP giving a track by track breakdown of all the songs in ADTOE.  The interesting thing for me in it was how he described FFH as part 1 of BAI due to the sharing of musical themes - I know this has already been talked about but it was good to see him confirm it - the interview's not on the web though.

[GasparXR]

My CD is still not in. I will grab the nearest tree and give the nearest douchebag a good hard smack with said tree.

[BlackInk]

Just recieved the box set. Loving it. To pieces.

[chknptpie]

The CD was delivered to my house while I was on vacation for 8 days last week. No idea when it actually got there, just glad it finally did. If you haven't received it yet, I would seriously call about it.

[YngVai]

So I just recently gave this album a fair listen.  I got kind of burnt out on DT after BCSL, and had low expectations after the MP split.  I gave Backs of Angels a listen when it was streaming, but wasn't impressed.  I thought it sounded like it could easily have come from the Systematic Chaos or BCSL sessions, so I wrote it off.  However, I actually listened to the whole thing the other day, and I was pleasantly surprised.  It still doesn't sound like they're exploring any new territory, but is definitely a step up in consistency.  I've actually got high(er) hopes for the next one now. 

[durga2112]

Am I allowed to resurrect a thread that's more than a decade old? I guess there's only one way to find out.    I didn't know where else to post this, but check out the lock screen mini-player when ADTOE is playing on my phone:

[Tyrannosaurus Chicken]

Am I allowed to resurrect a thread that's more than a decade old? I guess there's only one way to find out.    I didn't know where else to post this, but check out the lock screen mini-player when ADTOE is playing on my phone:

Of course you're allowed! Digging up fossils is cool! Love this album, by the way. Absolutely love it.

[macneil]

ADTOE has only gotten stronger and stronger to me over the years, I flip flop on what my favourite of the Mangini era is, but right now I think this is the one.

All of the big songs are just fantastic, especially Breaking All Illusions which is a top 5 DT song ever for me. Backs of Angels is an awesome single and I've always had a soft spot for This is the Life. I think this is one of Jordan's strongest albums.

I think they felt they had a lot to prove back when MP originally left the band and really went for it with the writing. I think they pulled it off and for me this album is at least stronger than the 2 that preceded it (and would Octavarium if not for the title track). It's interesting looking back on it now that MP has rejoined.

My only real criticism is I'm really not a fan of BMUBMD, and the overall mix of the album is missing some weight (especially the drums). I've gotten used to it but it did used to bother me more. A version of this album that sounds as good as View for example would be awesome.

[TAC]

My only real criticism is I'm really not a fan of BMUBMD, and the overall mix of the album is missing some weight (especially the drums). I've gotten used to it but it did used to bother me more. A version of this album that sounds as good as View for example would be awesome.

Agreed on both points, and overall, this is a Top 3 DT album for me.