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Started by Perpetual Change, September 28, 2011, 06:17:59 PM

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antigoon


PraXis

Quote from: yeshaberto on November 03, 2011, 09:56:13 AM
Quote from: PraXis on November 03, 2011, 08:19:26 AM


Such productive members of society. California needs that 10.0.

can you please explain what you mean?

Sure. The people in the picture are thugs participating in a violent protest. They have no productive value.

zxlkho


Aramatheis

that would be a subjective point of view, PraXis


zxlkho

Objective that they have nothing to contribute to society? Okay sure.

Perpetual Change

#741
I'm more interested in what the "10.0" stands for.

antigoon

Don't know who the fuck the Oakland Liberation Front is.

zxlkho

Quote from: Perpetual Change on November 03, 2011, 10:16:28 AM
I'm more interested in what the "10.0" stands for.



10.0 = earthquake.


EPICVIEW

Quote from: zxlkho on November 03, 2011, 10:15:41 AM
Objective that they have nothing to contribute to society? Okay sure.


exactly..

Aramatheis


yeshaberto

wishing death upon people isn't cool.  knock it off.

time to move on to the original discussion

antigoon

Quote from: EPICVIEW on November 03, 2011, 08:33:22 AM

Just like the Tea Party?.

Quote from: EPICVIEW on November 03, 2011, 09:17:03 AM


just like the Tea Party... so similar...LOL LOL
Quote from: EPICVIEW on November 03, 2011, 10:18:25 AM

just like the Tea Party.. cough... lol

Yeah, we got it the first time.

zxlkho

This thread goes like this.. 3-4 pages of great discussion, then epicview and praxis show up, yesh tells everyone to knock it off, rinse and repeat.

Perpetual Change

Also, yes, Epic View is right. The far end of the left is ugly and violent. So is the far end of the right. Us moderates and liberals have to deal with the fact that sometimes the Democratic party also draws supporters who have views that are more radical or socialistic, Reverend Wright types. Moderate Republicans and conservatives have to deal with the fact that skinheads and Neo-Nazi's, for the most part, find Republicans to be the more accommodating of the two parties. Pointing out the extreme of either side doesn't really say anything about the normal subscribers to the party in general.

antigoon

Quote from: antigoon on November 03, 2011, 09:38:15 AM

There are reports that Oakland PD officers are covering up their badges with tape to prevent identification. Pretty sure that's, uh, illegal.

Anyway, has anyone else heard about this? There are no photos or news stories yet, just posts from people on the ground. Hoping something turns up.

zxlkho

Quote from: Perpetual Change on November 03, 2011, 10:24:10 AMPointing out the extreme of either side doesn't really say anything about the normal subscribers to the party in general.

...or the rest of the entire OWS movement. Thank you Joe.

antigoon

Also, OWS has nothing to do with Democratic party support.

Gorille85

I'm sorry but this is nothing, NOTHING like the Tea Party!! :o

yeshaberto

Quote from: zxlkho on November 03, 2011, 10:23:06 AM
This thread goes like this.. 3-4 pages of great discussion, then epicview and praxis show up, yesh tells everyone to knock it off, rinse and repeat.

:lol

I blame it on my short memory

EPICVIEW

Quote from: Perpetual Change on November 03, 2011, 10:24:10 AM
Also, yes, Epic View is right. The far end of the left is ugly and violent. So is the far end of the right. Us moderates and liberals have to deal with the fact that sometimes the Democratic party also draws supporters who have views that are more radical or socialistic, Reverend Wright types. Moderate Republicans and conservatives have to deal with the fact that skinheads and Neo-Nazi's, for the most part, find Republicans to be the more accommodating of the two parties. Pointing out the extreme of either side doesn't really say anything about the normal subscribers to the party in general.


show me the tea party or far right has done violence..  it doesnt exist..the Tea Party even cleans up after a gathering so our tax dollars are not used.

PS: the Nazis have endorsed the OWS , and have always been a off shoot of the Dem party ( look it up.. its a fact)

https://www.newser.com/story/131217/nazi-party-endorses-occupy-wall-street.html

Perpetual Change

I'm just trying to compare OWS with the Tea Party, for example. Epic's pointed out that Tea Party protests were relatively non-violent, which is true, and I myself am concerned by the growing mob mentality of OWS. But to say that the Tea Party didn't have it's share of radicals is just not true. We've all seen the pick of the President with a bullet through his head and the worst of the birthers, a large portion of whom seemed racially motivated. Even my grandpa, who I love to death, told me that he hopes "they take Obama out like they did Kennedy." And, having been around conservatives most of my life, I refuse to believe a Republican who tells me they've never heard their share of hate speech from other republicans. To suggest that the Republican Party, or the Tea Party, does not have it's share of militants and racists and it's only OWLS and liberal movements that are like that is completely ridiculous.

Also, Epic, Nazism is fascism, which is the far end of the right wing. It is the diametric opposite of Communism, which is the far end of the left. If the Nazis really supported OWS, it probably has more to do with those wild conspiracies they have about Jewish bankers controlling the entire world from secret bunkers beneath the Earth's surface.

Scratch that. Epic, you are wrong. The biggest Nazi organization has certainly NOT supported OWS. Quite the opposite, actually. I won't name or link to their site here because it is probably against the rules, but their website is full of editorials against it.

EPICVIEW

Quote from: Perpetual Change on November 03, 2011, 10:35:58 AM
I'm just trying to compare OWS with the Tea Party, for example. Epic's pointed out that Tea Party protests were relatively non-violent, which is true, and I myself am concerned by the growing mob mentality of OWS. But to say that the Tea Party didn't have it's share of radicals is just not true. We've all seen the pick of the President with a bullet through his head and the worst of the birthers, a large portion of whom seemed racially motivated. Even my grandpa, who I love to death, told me that he hopes "they take Obama out like they did Kennedy." And, having been around conservatives most of my life, I refuse to believe a Republican who tells me they've never heard their share of hate speech from other republicans. To suggest that the Republican Party, or the Tea Party, does not have it's share of militants and racists and it's only OWLS and liberal movements that are like that is completely ridiculous.


Also, Epic, Nazism is fascism, which is the far end of the right wing. It is the diametric opposite of Communism, which is the far end of the left. If the Nazis really supported OWS, it probably has more to do with those wild conspiracies they have about Jewish bankers controlling the entire world from secret bunkers beneath the Earth's surface.

Scratch that. Epic, you are wrong. The biggest Nazi organization has certainly NOT supported OWS. Quite the opposite, actually. I won't name or link to their site here because it is probably against the rules, but their website is full of editorials against it.


again.. where is the violence, rapes and wilding by the Tea Party??.. dont give me a few signs that the masses made the .0001% take down immediatly..and PS: those people were plants by the left.. well proven..they were not even part of the Tea Party.. but crashers

You do know the left made a FILM  depicting the killing of GWB.. nobody cared..a FILM!!!!

Super Dude


antigoon

This is not productive discussion.

antigoon

I'm curious to see the results of Bank Transfer Day on Saturday.

livehard

Ya as the name suggests I think its pretty clear the Tea Party was a little more classy than these losers.   You should see the park here in Downtown NYC, its a cesspool.

EPICVIEW

Quote from: livehard on November 03, 2011, 10:54:31 AM
Ya as the name suggests I think its pretty clear the Tea Party was a little more classy than these losers.   You should see the park here in Downtown NYC, its a cesspool.

I  saw it... makes me want to vomit.. Bloomberg better find his balls and stop the poltical pandering and do his job....

and where is their permit???

skydivingninja

Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't the OWS protestors made a point of cleaning up their mess in the past month or two?

As for the port being closed down, this is the kind of economic ignorance that I saw in plenty of these protesters from day 1.  Shutting down an export port makes the workers there lose money, makes corporations using it lose money, makes the owner of the port lose money, and makes all the countries that depend on those goods save money...which they'll spend on something else and cause more people in corporations to lose jobs.  Not to mention causing downturns for smaller businesses where they congregate, only adding to one of the problems they're so pissed about.  :facepalm: 

Also, EPICVIEW, I think you missed the point of PC's excellent post.  There are wackos on both sides of the spectrum, and they do not and should not define each side.  Neonazis and people who want Obama dead do not represent the all Republicans or even the Tea Party, and communists and people who made a film about GWB's death do not represent the views of Democrats.  And in response to your claim about left-wing Tea Party crashers, those who use OWS as an excuse for violence are just like that, except not affiliated with either party or OWS, just thugs looking to cause trouble. 

Super Dude

I wouldn't even call OWS such a unitary entity; should the people at Occupy Grand Rapids be blamed for the blocking of that port?

EPICVIEW

wow...this is so shocking Obama's ACORN funding the OWS movement.... like saying "water is wet"...who knew?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2053967/Is-ACORN-secretly-running-Occupy-Wall-Street.html


Im glad to be the 1%..

EPICVIEW

Quote from: antigoon on November 03, 2011, 10:27:04 AM
Also, OWS has nothing to do with Democratic party support.

I dont agree and can prove otherwise..oh wait I just did in my above post..snap..^^.

Super Dude


El Barto

I seem to recall the tea party being quite keen on a guy who crashed his piper cub into an IRS building. 

While I find it offensive (as usual),  I can get the position of Livehard and Praxis.  What I'm having trouble getting is EV.  For one thing,  their target seems to be the status quo, rather than capitalism in general.  Obama is the status quo.  I don't think you'd find any of these people are fans of his anymore.  Personally,  I'd surmise that it's disillusionment in his sorry ass that's created these people in the first place.  Not sure why the hostility towards them, except that as usual, you're misinterpreting Obama's significance. 

And by the way EV,  you're going off on tangents again.  ACORN is not Obama's organization,  despite what the British tabloids would convince you.