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Man of Steel (Zack Snyder's Superman)

Started by TimelessSymphony, July 21, 2012, 10:07:00 AM

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hefdaddy42

Quote from: tapsmiled on July 01, 2013, 07:02:06 AM
Personally, I feel it lacked nearly all of the things that make Superman great, primarily heart.
Wow, I'm amazed, I thought Superman displayed plenty of heart in this film.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Kotowboy

Quote from: Zantera on July 01, 2013, 06:04:47 AM
Avengers is one of the better Marvel-movies though. I think it's great, mostly probably because they actually pulled it off (having that many heroes in one movie), but the whole endbattle is pretty underwhelming for me. Doesn't really help that they stole it out of Transformers 3 either.


Thankfully i've never seen transformers 2,3 or 4.

I also thought Iron man 2 was really poor.

Never seen any Hulk film besides the Eric Bana one which was poor and nor Have I seen Thor or Captain America.

sueño

Iron Man 3 was better -- but not better than the first one.

The Bana Hulk was a lame story, but I really like how Ang Lee shot the film to mimic comic book panels.

The Ed Norton Hulk was good, IMO.  But I love Ed Norton and Tim Roth!

tapsmiled

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 01, 2013, 08:28:52 AM
Quote from: tapsmiled on July 01, 2013, 07:02:06 AM
Personally, I feel it lacked nearly all of the things that make Superman great, primarily heart.
Wow, I'm amazed, I thought Superman displayed plenty of heart in this film.

The parts that Snyder intentionally omitted from this version (I.e. Big Boy Scout) are the parts I missed the most.  I never felt that protecting innocents was his primary focus.

BlackInk

If DC's keeps it's Justice League franchise as strong as this movie they will absolutely crush Marvel's Avengers thing. Maybe not if you would count money, but if you look at how good the movies are. To me, Man of Steel is better than all of the Avengers movies, the first Iron Man being the best.

Man of Steel - 8.3/10 - Great

Tick

Quote from: BlackInk on July 01, 2013, 01:50:45 PM
If DC's keeps it's Justice League franchise as strong as this movie they will absolutely crush Marvel's Avengers thing. Maybe not if you would count money, but if you look at how good the movies are. To me, Man of Steel is better than all of the Avengers movies, the first Iron Man being the best.

Man of Steel - 8.3/10 - Great
Do you mean all 1 of the Avengers movies?

Man of Steel was heavy on action, light on a cohesive storyline. 6.5 out of 10

Jaffa

Quote from: Tick on July 01, 2013, 02:14:41 PM
Do you mean all 1 of the Avengers movies?

The movies featuring Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and the Hulk are considered part of the Avengers franchise.  Since they're... well, the Avengers.

Whether or not you agree with this classification, it seems pretty obvious to me that this is what BlackInk meant. 

TioJorge

Not to mention they have 2 more planned... They're not out yet, but I think that he was comparing future tenses "Justice League" (which will no doubt have sequels if its successful) and "The Avengers" (1/2/3); and I'm inclined to agree. I enjoyed MoS more than The Avengers or any of the stories leading up to it with the exception of the first Iron Man, which has a special place in my heart and will not likely be dethroned anytime soon. That is, until they make the Doctor Strange movie...that could be 2 1/2 hours of orgasms.

I'm not sure how the storyline of MoS isn't 'cohesive', but to each his own; we all see things differently. But I found no plot holes and felt that the story, while at times light, was fleshed out enough for us to understand Kal-El and his origins, which was the main focus of this entry. A launching point, if you will. Surely successive movies will delve deeper into the mythos of Superman. I'm really excited for it.

I actually might go see this again tonight. It'll be empty since it's a Monday, and I'm really down for some Kryptonian wrestling.

Dark Castle

The problem with Narvel is that they're easy to campy and family friendly, even if very enjoyable.

On another note; I want more Hellboy movies and would love an Animal Man movie

TioJorge

I dunno why, but when I read "Narvel" I IMMEDIATELY pictured a Tim and Eric episode of a Cinco-inspired superhero team fighting crime with supersoakers that spray some kind of pink goo and melt their opponents into molasses which is then used by the Cinco waffle mixer to make superhero waffle sauce.

More Hellboy movies is a good idea if they can make it original again. 2 was enjoyable, but aside from going gaga over the wonderful sets and costumes, I really didn't have much interest in the actual storyline and by the end of the movie it was all but a blur to me and I really couldn't have cared less. That said, I somehow still enjoyed it. Fun, but nothing more.

Dark Castle

Damnit phone  :lol

More Hellboy movies like the first would be wonderful, the second was cool but like you said, a haze.
And Aquaman needs a movie as well

King Postwhore

I really want a Flash Movie.  Why it hasn't got done yet is anyone's guess.  When they miscast the Green Lantern with Ryan Reynolds, I said to my cousin that they should have used him for Wally West.  He was better suited for that role.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

TioJorge

KING! I SAID THE EXACT SAME THING, KING! AND EVERYONE NAY-SAYED ME! I am so fucking glad that someone agrees with that point of view. He would be perfect for that role. It's a real shame. I have no doubt that one day a Flash movie will be created, but I'm wondering if it will flop like GL or if they'll get it right... But I've no doubt it'll at least be created someday in the further future. There's too much potential in that type of concept; a guy that is friggin' faster than Superman...that's just awesome.

But I would love it if they cast an unknown and focus on his character instead of his ability to move really fucking fast. He's such a funny, enjoyable character, but to sprinkle scenes of immense speed and ass-kicking here and there would make it a very marketable superhero movie. I'd imagine it almost like Hancock in that it's almost slapstick at times, but still very serious in the times he's using his powers.

P.S. We have officially fucked this thread into oblivion with the off-topicness.  :lol :rollin

Perhaps we should make a full-on DC movie thread and a Marvel thread? Or *gasp* fuse them all into one superhero movie thread?

Accelerando

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 01, 2013, 03:19:53 PM
I really want a Flash Movie.  Why it hasn't got done yet is anyone's guess.  When they miscast the Green Lantern with Ryan Reynolds, I said to my cousin that they should have used him for Wally West.  He was better suited for that role.

Yes! That's what i've been saying.


And I would love to see an Aquaman movie. It could be a fantastic epic. Also, now that I think about it, since there was an Aquaman easter egg in Man of Steel, im starting to wonder that oil rig was under attack by Atlanteans!!

Big Hath

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 01, 2013, 03:19:53 PM
I really want a Flash Movie.  Why it hasn't got done yet is anyone's guess.  When they miscast the Green Lantern with Ryan Reynolds, I said to my cousin that they should have used him for Wally West.  He was better suited for that role.


THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

Flash was/is my favorite in the DC universe.  And I read back several years ago that Reynolds was actually on board to play Wally West in a movie that was very early in development.  It obviously never panned out for whatever reason.  However, now that Barry Allen is the Flash again in the comics, I guess the whole Wally West idea is out also (Wally was always my favorite Flash - and Barry Allen was awesome as the only superhero that stayed dead - he gave up his freaking life to save the entire universe!).

Kotowboy

The director of the Green Lantern also directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale.

Does he only have good movies when it's bond ?

King Postwhore

I liked both Zorro movies he directed.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Kotowboy

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 01, 2013, 06:38:29 PM
I liked both Zorro movies he directed.

His Mel Gibson movie was a flop too.

He's like Nick Meyer and Star Trek . The ones he directed are two of the best in the canon and they're also his biggest films too.

King Postwhore

I never saw it.  Mel with a Boston accent?!  Count me out. :lol
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

MetalJunkie

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 01, 2013, 06:43:40 PM
I never saw it.  Mel with a Boston accent?!  Count me out. :lol
I really liked Edge of Darkness. It wasn't what I expected though. All drama, very little action. Still enjoyable.

Cyclopssss


Tick

Quote from: Jaffa on July 01, 2013, 02:27:34 PM
Quote from: Tick on July 01, 2013, 02:14:41 PM
Do you mean all 1 of the Avengers movies?

The movies featuring Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and the Hulk are considered part of the Avengers franchise.  Since they're... well, the Avengers.

Whether or not you agree with this classification, it seems pretty obvious to me that this is what BlackInk meant.
To you maybe. I honestly thought he was confused and meant to say Xmen. So...

Accelerando

Thoughts on my fantasy casting choices for Justice League? With Henry Cavill obviously in Supes role....

Batman - Anson Mount
Wonder Woman - Bridget Regan
Flash (Wally) -  Joel McHale
Green Lantern (John Stewart)- Michael Jai White
Aquaman - Garrett Hedlund
Green Arrow - Karl Urban
Martian Manhunter - Dennis Haysbert
Cyborg - John Boyega

Kotowboy

 :rollin

Dear me - all those are The Justice League ?

That has turd written all over it.

Accelerando

WHy? Because they aren't big named actors?

Cyclopssss

I´m watching Watchmen (ultimate cut) at the moment. Talk about Violent!

BlackInk

Quote from: Accelerando on July 02, 2013, 07:47:03 PM
Thoughts on my fantasy casting choices for Justice League? With Henry Cavill obviously in Supes role....

Batman - Anson Mount
Wonder Woman - Bridget Regan
Flash (Wally) -  Joel McHale
Green Lantern (John Stewart)- Michael Jai White
Aquaman - Garrett Hedlund
Green Arrow - Karl Urban
Martian Manhunter - Dennis Haysbert
Cyborg - John Boyega

I actually think they should do what Marvel did here and only focus on a small group of them in the first Justice League movie. I'd vote for Batman and Superman (obviously), Green Lantern (John Stewart), Martian Manhunter and Flash. Maybe Wonder Woman to get a woman in there but I have never really liked the concept of her, I may prefer Hawkgirl, she's more of a bad ass.

And Green Lantern must be John Stewart. I grew up watching the animated Justice League series so Green Lantern will always be this really cool black guy in my mind, not a goofy Ryan Reynolds Hal Jordan running around.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlackInk on July 03, 2013, 01:39:36 AM
Green Lantern must be John Stewart. I grew up watching the animated Justice League series so Green Lantern will always be this really cool black guy in my mind, not a goofy Ryan Reynolds Hal Jordan running around.
I'm the exact opposite.  I grew up with Hal Jordan, and I also collected in the 90s with the newer white guy (forget his name).  John Stewart is just weird to me.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Tick

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 03, 2013, 03:48:49 AM
Quote from: BlackInk on July 03, 2013, 01:39:36 AM
Green Lantern must be John Stewart. I grew up watching the animated Justice League series so Green Lantern will always be this really cool black guy in my mind, not a goofy Ryan Reynolds Hal Jordan running around.
I'm the exact opposite.  I grew up with Hal Jordan, and I also collected in the 90s with the newer white guy (forget his name).  John Stewart is just weird to me.
Agreed, Heff. Hal will always be Green Lantern to me.

Kotowboy

Quote from: Accelerando on July 02, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
WHy? Because they aren't big named actors?

Sorry - not your actors list - just the characters in general. They sound like something out of a spoof.

King Postwhore

 Kotowboy, you never heard of the Justice League?
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Lucien

I always found DC characters to be a lot less realistic than Marvel characters

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Lucien on July 03, 2013, 06:24:01 AM
I always found DC characters to be a lot less realistic than Marvel characters
Me too, although I always liked both sides.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Dark Castle

Quote from: Lucien on July 03, 2013, 06:24:01 AM
I always found DC characters to be a lot less realistic than Marvel characters
I've always found it to be the opposite.
My ranking goes DC>Dark Horse>Marvel

That being said I think all put out fantastic comics :)

Accelerando

Quote from: Lucien on July 03, 2013, 06:24:01 AM
I always found DC characters to be a lot less realistic than Marvel characters

DC characters are more god-like than Marvel characters. Marvel has lots of sci/fi elements in which DC has more fantasy.

Quote from: Kotowboy on July 03, 2013, 05:54:21 AM
Quote from: Accelerando on July 02, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
WHy? Because they aren't big named actors?

Sorry - not your actors list - just the characters in general. They sound like something out of a spoof.

Oh haha. I don't think they'll use all those characters in one Justice League movie. But those are some names I'd like to see attached to those characters...especially Anson Mount. He's(should be) the next Batman in my mind.