2009/10 WORLD TOUR DISCUSSION THREAD

STEVETHEATER · June 10, 2009, 05:51:31 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlBYfCJWMXY

DarkLord_Lalinc · June 10, 2009, 06:07:02 PM

Quote from: emindead on June 10, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on June 10, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 10, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEGl6K9q5nY

There's something new in the middle here. Is it the demo version of Hollow Years?

Yup- it is! Awesome!
Why are they playing their demos? We'll have now some "Take The Time" demo too or "You Not Me" or "Take Away My Pain"? "Hollow Years" was correctly edited... get over it...

It has nothing to do with the quality of the demo or the finished song. It has to do with giving something new and special to the fans that see them live.

hefdaddy42 · June 10, 2009, 09:02:16 PM

Quote from: emindead on June 10, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on June 10, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 10, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEGl6K9q5nY

There's something new in the middle here. Is it the demo version of Hollow Years?

Yup- it is! Awesome!
Why are they playing their demos? We'll have now some "Take The Time" demo too or "You Not Me" or "Take Away My Pain"? "Hollow Years" was correctly edited... get over it...

It's their music. Get over it. And frankly, the demo for Take Away My Pain slays the album version.

Zeltar · June 10, 2009, 10:05:46 PM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 10, 2009, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: emindead on June 10, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on June 10, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 10, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEGl6K9q5nY

There's something new in the middle here. Is it the demo version of Hollow Years?

Yup- it is! Awesome!
Why are they playing their demos? We'll have now some "Take The Time" demo too or "You Not Me" or "Take Away My Pain"? "Hollow Years" was correctly edited... get over it...
It's their music. Get over it. And frankly, the demo for Take Away My Pain slays the album version.

Fully agreed. The demo version is so much more heartfelt. It just has that sort of atmosphere that the studio version couldn't capture well.

cramx3 · June 10, 2009, 11:12:32 PM

I am surprised the set list is so similar to the last years PN. I assume this is only because they didn't release the new album and they didn't play these songs in Europe last year and that the set list will change a lot when PN comes to the U.S.A.?

BlobVanDam · June 10, 2009, 11:41:42 PM

Dammit, the studio version of Hollow Years is better than the original.

brakkum · June 11, 2009, 12:51:44 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 10, 2009, 11:41:42 PM
Dammit, the studio version of Hollow Years is better than the original.

i tend to agree with that. it just feels better to me. the pre-chorus in the demo feels like too much tension to me.

tri.ad · June 11, 2009, 01:23:45 AM

I agree that the album version of Hollow Years is more concise, but still, the song is pretty bland.

BlobVanDam · June 11, 2009, 01:38:07 AM

I think it's definitely one of their better ballads.

brakkum · June 11, 2009, 03:29:06 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 11, 2009, 01:38:07 AM
I think it's definitely one of their better ballads.

yes.

hefdaddy42 · June 11, 2009, 08:20:51 AM

Quote from: tri.ad on June 11, 2009, 01:23:45 AM
I agree that the album version of Hollow Years is more concise, but still, the song is pretty bland.

This. I skip it every time when I listen to Falling Into Infinity.

DarkLord_Lalinc · June 11, 2009, 08:24:36 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9JzN64oRCA

BlobVanDam · June 11, 2009, 08:38:16 AM

Nice. JLB is really singing great this tour. I really hope they do a big DVD this tour to shut up the unbelievers. Shame they skip the high verse.

DarkLord_Lalinc · June 11, 2009, 08:41:12 AM

The vibratto is minimal and his tone is magnificient. JLB is rocking the house.

BlobVanDam · June 11, 2009, 08:43:07 AM

Hell yeah. His pitch is great, and he's trying for the notes spot on rather than using vibrato, except when it's necessary, and it's not too wide. Sounding the best I've heard him for a long time.

GuineaPig · June 11, 2009, 08:49:10 AM

Quote from: BlobVanDam on June 11, 2009, 08:38:16 AM
Nice. JLB is really singing great this tour. I really hope they do a big DVD this tour to shut up the unbelievers. Shame they skip the high verse.

Which is weird, considering they played it on PN08.

BlobVanDam · June 11, 2009, 08:53:01 AM

I guess they wanted to fit it more this show?

GuineaPig · June 11, 2009, 08:57:21 AM

At the expense of a 50 second verse?

Either way, this guy has most of the concert up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eklIclCpEsc&feature=channel_page

SeRoX · June 11, 2009, 09:24:51 AM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 11, 2009, 08:24:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9JzN64oRCA

that is the proof his perfection in this tour. 6:32-6:40 what a scream he hit!

Can't wait for the Turkey concert!

Nihil-Morari · June 11, 2009, 09:47:24 AM

Very nice indeed!

He slides a bit into it, but when he has the note, he never lets go! Wonderful pitching.

chrisbDTM · June 11, 2009, 05:48:58 PM

i never got to see eroto/voices live. i wish i went to the second prog nation night in NY, not the first..

emindead · June 11, 2009, 08:01:29 PM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on June 10, 2009, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: emindead on June 10, 2009, 05:39:06 PM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on June 10, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 10, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEGl6K9q5nY

There's something new in the middle here. Is it the demo version of Hollow Years?

Yup- it is! Awesome!
Why are they playing their demos? We'll have now some "Take The Time" demo too or "You Not Me" or "Take Away My Pain"? "Hollow Years" was correctly edited... get over it...
It's their music. Get over it. And frankly, the demo for Take Away My Pain slays the album version.

Well of course it's their music. Even if they play that version here I would still go insane... but that's not the way I want them to be "giving more stuff" to their fans.

emindead · June 11, 2009, 08:04:59 PM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 11, 2009, 08:24:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9JzN64oRCA

Hey, they skipped the second verse!

DarkLord_Lalinc · June 11, 2009, 09:46:31 PM

I hope that they at least didn't skip the "Unbroken spirit" verse in Take the Time.

tri.ad · June 11, 2009, 11:37:41 PM

Nice video, JLB sounds really good on it.

cyberdrummer · June 12, 2009, 12:43:02 AM

2009-10-09 - Apollo - Manchester, UK
2009-10-10 - Wembley Arena - London, UK
2009-10-11 - SECC - Glasgow, UK

Spacebar. · June 12, 2009, 01:42:05 AM

wow wembley eh?? this would be a possible location for a dvd shoot

AcidLameLTE · June 12, 2009, 02:51:29 AM

FUCK YES. Just got an E-mail from Wembley Arena. I'm going to buy my ticket now!

Edit: AHHHH. They're not on sale until Monday.

dech2410 · June 12, 2009, 04:12:10 AM

I can´t wait for the gelsenkirchen gig

all the way to germany!

I'll take my PDA with me, so I can put the setlist on pretty quick...

AcidLameLTE · June 12, 2009, 08:14:28 AM

The Wembley Arena gig was so epic on the last tour. I can't wait to go again.

bosk1 · June 12, 2009, 08:21:26 AM

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 11, 2009, 09:46:31 PM
I hope that they at least didn't skip the "Unbroken spirit" verse in Take the Time.

Dude, of course they did! I wouldn't be surprised if they never played that verse live again.

DarkLord_Lalinc · June 12, 2009, 08:27:13 AM

Quote from: bosk1 on June 12, 2009, 08:21:26 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on June 11, 2009, 09:46:31 PM
I hope that they at least didn't skip the "Unbroken spirit" verse in Take the Time.

Dude, of course they did! I wouldn't be surprised if they never played that verse live again.

You're a mean, mean person.

skydivingninja · June 12, 2009, 08:55:35 AM

I'm kinda sad they abridged Voices in Moscow...they didn't in Austrailia in 2007, and on the Sydney bootleg I have, James sounded great.

cyberdrummer · June 12, 2009, 10:09:54 AM

Booked my Wembley ticket earlier. Can't wait.

STFD · June 12, 2009, 11:28:48 AM

Quote from: cyberdrummer on April 27, 2009, 06:25:36 AM

2009-06-30 - Tesla Arena - Prague, CZE (w/ special guests Cynic)

Does anybody have the setlist for this concert?

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2009/10 WORLD TOUR DISCUSSION THREAD