Your Controversial Opinions on DT

[puppyonacid]

I'll forgive that but only cos I like the pics in your sig

[Crow]

I just didn't want it to seem like hyperbole, because it genuinely is a terrible song. And I can't stand by and take such painful accusations such as finding any enjoyment from Scarred!

It's the best song they've written and in my top 5 songs of all time 
I don't see how you can like the disjointed mess of 6DOIT and then claim that Scarred is a disjointed mess 

[KevShmev]

I don't see how you can like the disjointed mess of 6DOIT and then claim that Scarred is a disjointed mess 

It just goes to show you that every possible opinion regarding DT is likely held by some DT fan, somewhere.

[BlobVanDam]

I just didn't want it to seem like hyperbole, because it genuinely is a terrible song. And I can't stand by and take such painful accusations such as finding any enjoyment from Scarred!

It's the best song they've written and in my top 5 songs of all time 
I don't see how you can like the disjointed mess of 6DOIT and then claim that Scarred is a disjointed mess 

Because SDOIT isn't a mess at all. It's 42 minutes that showcases all of DT's best attributes, unlike Scarred, which doesn't.

[Prog Snob]

I'll forgive that but only cos I like the pics in your sig

Just how much would you forgive if I brought her to  you.   

[KevShmev]

I just didn't want it to seem like hyperbole, because it genuinely is a terrible song. And I can't stand by and take such painful accusations such as finding any enjoyment from Scarred!

It's the best song they've written and in my top 5 songs of all time 
I don't see how you can like the disjointed mess of 6DOIT and then claim that Scarred is a disjointed mess 

Because SDOIT isn't a mess at all. It's 42 minutes that showcases all of DT's best attributes, unlike Scarred, which doesn't.

Yeah, if only Scarred had lyrics as poetic as:

The smell of stale sweat and shit
Streaming through the night

[BlobVanDam]

I just didn't want it to seem like hyperbole, because it genuinely is a terrible song. And I can't stand by and take such painful accusations such as finding any enjoyment from Scarred!

It's the best song they've written and in my top 5 songs of all time 
I don't see how you can like the disjointed mess of 6DOIT and then claim that Scarred is a disjointed mess 

Because SDOIT isn't a mess at all. It's 42 minutes that showcases all of DT's best attributes, unlike Scarred, which doesn't.

Yeah, if only Scarred had lyrics as poetic as:

The smell of stale sweat and shit
Streaming through the night

Picking out two lines out of context and just laughing. That's a solid argument there.

The line is obviously supposed to sound gross and putrid, to convey the terrible conditions the person has suffered from the poor treatment of their condition. And it works perfectly in the song.

[Prog Snob]

I just didn't want it to seem like hyperbole, because it genuinely is a terrible song. And I can't stand by and take such painful accusations such as finding any enjoyment from Scarred!

It's the best song they've written and in my top 5 songs of all time 
I don't see how you can like the disjointed mess of 6DOIT and then claim that Scarred is a disjointed mess 

Because SDOIT isn't a mess at all. It's 42 minutes that showcases all of DT's best attributes, unlike Scarred, which doesn't.

Yeah, if only Scarred had lyrics as poetic as:

The smell of stale sweat and shit
Streaming through the night

That's some brilliant alliteration there. 

[Crow]

6DOIT is a series of movements that are mostly all fine on their own but don't flow together well at all, leading to some of the most hilariously awkward transitions in their discography sans WDADU. Some of the movements would probably be top 50 for me on their own but if I'm to take it as one song, well, I simply can't take it as one song 
And don't tell me "well then don't consider it a song" because, it objectively is a song, just one that really shouldn't be. Huge album-length epics can work sometimes but DT did not do a very good job of it if you ask me.

[BlobVanDam]

6DOIT is a series of movements that are mostly all fine on their own but don't flow together well at all, leading to some of the most hilariously awkward transitions in their discography sans WDADU. Some of the movements would probably be top 50 for me on their own but if I'm to take it as one song, well, I simply can't take it as one song 
And don't tell me "well then don't consider it a song" because, it objectively is a song, just one that really shouldn't be. Huge album-length epics can work sometimes but DT did not do a very good job of it if you ask me.

This is why labels are completely pointless in music, because whether it's a song or a suite or a *whatever else* should have absolutely no bearing on how you judge the music, otherwise you're doing it wrong. It's music. 42 minutes of music. Judge it for that.

And Scarred has some very jarring transitions, especially to the outro, that doesn't even feel like the same song.

[Crow]

It's 42 minutes of music that I never have a drive to listen to as a whole.

[KevShmev]

Well said, Parama. 

Regarding it being one song, I think certain musicians get hung up on having super long songs, like it makes them more prog or something.  Same thing with Transatlantic's The Whirlwind, which is quite clearly a suite/thematic album, but it comes off as more prog to call it a 77-minute song, so they did. 

The point: when taken as a single song, yes, Six Degrees is very messy, but as a suite where all of the movements can be taken individually, it's really not. 

[BlobVanDam]

It's 42 minutes of music that flies by every time, and has never dragged for me or lost its shine. I've never once listened to it in pieces, because it works so well as a whole, and has always been my favourite DT song.

[Dark Castle]

I can't listen to 6Degrees in whole ever, I usually just listen to Solitary Shell if I'm going to listen to it at all.

[jakepriest]

I don't think I've ever been able to listen to 6 Degrees as a whole without having to skip the awfully long intro to Goodnight Kiss (the song itself is great) and the entirety of Solitary Shell (which bores me to tears).

[KevShmev]

If I start at War Inside My Head, I can usually get through those 29 minutes (from it till the end), but while the main theme of the Overture is nice, it get very tedious after a while, while also sounding like something you'd heard in Super Mario Brothers , and for some reason, while About to Crash is a really nice piece of music, it rarely fails to hold my interest.  I usually just skip to the next track and go from there. 

[mikeyd23]

I have a long commute to work, so listening to SDOIT as a whole works for me, and I love it!! Some of DT's best work! 

[BlobVanDam]

If I start at War Inside My Head, I can usually get through those 29 minutes (from it till the end), but while the main theme of the Overture is nice, it get very tedious after a while, while also sounding like something you'd heard in Super Mario Brothers , and for some reason, while About to Crash is a really nice piece of music, it rarely fails to hold my interest.  I usually just skip to the next track and go from there. 

That's ridiculous.





It's clearly Legend of Zelda. Which is why it sounds awesome.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

I always listen to SDOIT all the way through.

[Zook]

If I start at War Inside My Head, I can usually get through those 29 minutes (from it till the end), but while the main theme of the Overture is nice, it get very tedious after a while, while also sounding like something you'd heard in Super Mario Brothers , and for some reason, while About to Crash is a really nice piece of music, it rarely fails to hold my interest.  I usually just skip to the next track and go from there. 

That's ridiculous.





It's clearly Legend of Zelda. Which is why it sounds awesome.

More like the opening to a cheesy Disney movie where there's an aerial shot of a neighborhood.

[BlobVanDam]

If I start at War Inside My Head, I can usually get through those 29 minutes (from it till the end), but while the main theme of the Overture is nice, it get very tedious after a while, while also sounding like something you'd heard in Super Mario Brothers , and for some reason, while About to Crash is a really nice piece of music, it rarely fails to hold my interest.  I usually just skip to the next track and go from there. 

That's ridiculous.





It's clearly Legend of Zelda. Which is why it sounds awesome.

More like the opening to a cheesy Disney movie where there's an aerial shot of a neighborhood.

No u.

[Zook]

Hey, I love 6DOIT, but that's what the Overture reminds me of every time.

[Perpetual Change]

The Overture to SDOIT is easily the band's most skippable song in my opinion.

[jakepriest]

The Overture to SDOIT is easily the band's most skippable song in my opinion.

No.

[Perpetual Change]

"In my opinion", dude. You can read, right?

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

No, he's saying you can't have that opinion.

I like Overture, btw, but I usually only listen to the Score version.

[jakepriest]

I don't allow opinions. Deal with it. 

[Onno]

I don't allow opinions. Deal with it. 

If you don't allow opinions, then this thread is probably not the best place to be 

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

[Implode]

In my opinion, your opinion that opinions aren't allowed contradicts your own opinion that opinions in your opinion are not allowed in your opinion.

imo

[JayOctavarium]

I love Scarred. To death. I didn't used to... It always felt out of place on Awake... (plus my first introduction to Scarred was on CiM... ick). And then one day I woke up to find, 30 years has got behind.... no one told me when to run.... I missed the starting gun... And then one day it just.... clicked and I LOVE it now.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

In my opinion, your opinion that opinions aren't allowed contradicts your own opinion that opinions in your opinion are not allowed in your opinion.

imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9o0Yza3zf0#t=6m26s

[jakepriest]

I don't allow opinions. Deal with it. 

If you don't allow opinions, then this thread is probably not the best place to be 

WTB joke detector 

[Outcrier]

I like both Scarred and SDOIT so, the best opinion is mine

[sneakyblueberry]

what you did there, i see it.