DREAM THEATER RELEASES TRAILER FOR NEW DVD, BLU-RAY, CD

[DTFan0789]

Nothing will come of this.

[TheAtliator]

Dream theater has NEVER used auto tune live- we know that for sure.

The closest thing is JP kinda lip syncing/ singing along with most of the harmony backing tracks on the ADTOE tour. Still wish MM, Jordan, and JP would just do it for real.


And call me stubborn, but I still know that auto tune was applied through and through on the songs on CiM, and even much worse on the CD version, although I don't think I've heard every single song on the DVD or CD. I also know that even taking into account JLBs common mistakes and flaws, the post production made him sound a million times worse.

Also, I had to change my username  . But I also really like my new one 

[Another_Won]

Dream theater has NEVER used auto tune live- we know that for sure.

The closest thing is JP kinda lip syncing/ singing along with most of the harmony backing tracks on the ADTOE tour. Still wish MM, Jordan, and JP would just do it for real.


And call me stubborn, but I still know that auto tune was applied through and through on the songs on CiM, and even much worse on the CD version, although I don't think I've heard every single song on the DVD or CD. I also know that even taking into account JLBs common mistakes and flaws, the post production made him sound a million times worse.

Also, I had to change my username  . But I also really like my new one 

Thank you.  Looks good!

[hefdaddy42]

And call me stubborn, but I still know that auto tune was applied through and through on the songs on CiM, and even much worse on the CD version, although I don't think I've heard every single song on the DVD or CD.

Why not?

[Cedar redaC]

I hope we get news today!

[Labrie1984]

Soon (as the trailer back in feb. said) means half a year. Shortly means at least 2 months.

[wasteland]

Soon (as the trailer back in feb. said) means half a year. Shortly means at least 2 months.

So "in the next couple of weeks" could mean a decade? 

[Labrie1984]

Yeah man. Time's relative.

[faizoff]

Ha just went to Eagle Rock's facebook page and there are quite a few posts asking about the Live at Luna release. Still shortly could really mean a few weeks at this point realistically.

[DebraKadabra]

Let's see.

Exactly - I'm still excite for LALP, but I'll believe the update when I actually SEE it.

[Jinx]

If its in the next couple of days I can see a July release

[ariich]

Listen to the first verse of Panic Attack. Of all things in a DT show, James would not be off pitch during that verse.

Why not? For such an inexperienced singer you should really know that it's possible to go off pitch on any note at any time.

First, I've been singing since I was 4, but of course those singers I mentioned have been singing much much longer than I've even been alive, but anyway, careful with the word inexperienced. Second, not impossible, but unlikely for that specific spot.

Oops, I actually meant to say experienced. But yeah, you got my point anyway I think.

[rumborak]

Imitating James, Tommy Shaw, Dennis DeYoung, James Young, Mike Portnoy, Lawrence Gowan, Russel Allen, and Bruce Dickonson often helps me create technique for hitting different notes and different types of phrases.

Say what you will about MP's singing, but I think we all agree it's probably not a vocal performance to be imitated. Unless you mean "hitting different notes" in that 12-tone kind of way.

[Perpetual Change]

Considering all the time this is taking, and the fact that OTE have been in the studio, too, do you guys think it's a safe guess that *maybe* Live at Luna Park is going to be a departure for DT in the sense that they could feasibly be writing their new album while also doing overdubs for the Luna Park film? Like, more overdubbing than usual?

Considering that LSFNY, Budokan, and Score are all sparingly overdubbed (the first two there don't sound good enough to be overdubbed at all), I wouldn't mind at all if DT were spending a little bit more time on Luna Park to get it right. Then again, we already have like a dozen official and semi-official releases documenting how DT sounded on a specific night, so I guess I'm more interested the BluRay being as good as possible from both a performance and sound quality perspective.

[Perpetual Change]

Imitating James, Tommy Shaw, Dennis DeYoung, James Young, Mike Portnoy, Lawrence Gowan, Russel Allen, and Bruce Dickonson often helps me create technique for hitting different notes and different types of phrases.

Say what you will about MP's singing, but I think we all agree it's probably not a vocal performance to be imitated. Unless you mean "hitting different notes" in that 12-tone kind of way.

Yeah, I kinda lol'd at this. I don't know anything about you, Atliator, so I'm not giving you crap, but I'm just pointing out that I only know one other vocalist whose influences were derived pretty more exlusively from Dream Theater and prog-oriented artists (for better or worse)...

...And that vocalist is named Nicky Spanjaards

[Kotowboy]

I think OTE are in the studio to make a making of the new album DVD.

That's what I want anyway.

Like the one for Systematic Chaos - just without MP mugging and gurning and screaming every 5 minutes.

[Zydar]

Or a 'The Making of The Making of the Luna Park DVD'.

[Kotowboy]

" Why is John Myung ? "

[Nekov]

 

It's just ridiculous that it's taking this long for them to say anything at all but let's hope we really get news soon this time around.

[wolfking]

And call me stubborn, but I still know that auto tune was applied through and through on the songs on CiM, and even much worse on the CD version, although I don't think I've heard every single song on the DVD or CD.

But, I thought you studied James' voice all day every day, why would you have not heard every song from the release that you seem to know so much about??

[TheAtliator]

And call me stubborn, but I still know that auto tune was applied through and through on the songs on CiM, and even much worse on the CD version, although I don't think I've heard every single song on the DVD or CD.

But, I thought you studied James' voice all day every day, why would you have not heard every song from the release that you seem to know so much about??

I think I have heard every song on the DVD, but I might be forgetting one, and I've only listened to the first few on the CD. Lol there are a LOT of DT videos on youtube.. and these are not the pleasant ones to listen to.

[TheAtliator]

Imitating James, Tommy Shaw, Dennis DeYoung, James Young, Mike Portnoy, Lawrence Gowan, Russel Allen, and Bruce Dickonson often helps me create technique for hitting different notes and different types of phrases.

Say what you will about MP's singing, but I think we all agree it's probably not a vocal performance to be imitated. Unless you mean "hitting different notes" in that 12-tone kind of way.

No I mean different types of notes with different personalities, and different pitches as well. Mike has very nice expression and phrasing in his parts, at least in the studio. Sometimes I do derive some vocal influence from him, a lot with backing vocals actually. But no he isn't he most technically proficient singer, nor does he claim to be.

[JoshuaB2112]

Now make a list that includes Japan, Bucharest, When Dream and Day Reunite, Chile, Romavarium, and a hopeful future release from July 2011, which are (and one would be) perfect quality "official bootlegs".

edit: actually, are all of those official bootlegs?

Romavarium is not an official bootleg because it was made exclusively for DT fan club members and was not released by YtseJam records. The rest are though

[TheAtliator]

Now make a list that includes Japan, Bucharest, When Dream and Day Reunite, Chile, Romavarium, and a hopeful future release from July 2011, which are (and one would be) perfect quality "official bootlegs".

edit: actually, are all of those official bootlegs?

Romavarium is not an official bootleg because it was made exclusively for DT fan club members and was not released by YtseJam records. The rest are though

oh ok thanks!

[DebraKadabra]

Yeah, I kinda lol'd at this. I don't know anything about you, Atliator, so I'm not giving you crap, but I'm just pointing out that I only know one other vocalist whose influences were derived pretty more exlusively from Dream Theater and prog-oriented artists (for better or worse)...

...And that vocalist is named Nicky Spanjaards

Um... yep.

[dparrott]

Is the audio on the CiM DVD better than the audio CD's?  I remember the first part of Score CD set sounding worse than the DVD.

[TheAtliator]

Is the audio on the CiM DVD better than the audio CD's?  I remember the first part of Score CD set sounding worse than the DVD.

From what I've heard on it, the CD has much thicker autotune. I mean like it's embarrassingly thick and snappy

[adastra]

Dream theater has NEVER used auto tune live- we know that for sure.

The closest thing is JP kinda lip syncing/ singing along with most of the harmony backing tracks on the ADTOE tour. Still wish MM, Jordan, and JP would just do it for real.


And call me stubborn, but I still know that auto tune was applied through and through on the songs on CiM, and even much worse on the CD version, although I don't think I've heard every single song on the DVD or CD. I also know that even taking into account JLBs common mistakes and flaws, the post production made him sound a million times worse.

Also, I had to change my username  . But I also really like my new one 

Yeah, CiM was painful to listen/watch.  Maybe the worst singing I have ever heard (from a pro).  Roy Khan (Kamelot) @ Wacken 2008 is only one I could think of that could top that.
I stopped listening DT for couple of years after I bought the DVD   I don't mean that it was because of Labrie's performance. But it really sounded like crap.

[wolfking]

I honestly have always thought his vox on CIM were pretty good.  Definitely better than Budokan.

[ZirconBlue]

I honestly have always thought his vox on CIM were pretty good.  Definitely better than Budokan.

You crazy.  Every time he goes into the upper register on CiM, it sounds like he's been replaced by a (very nasal) robot.

[wasteland]

Yup, and Budokan had its good moments, like Trial Of Tears.

[TAC]

I've never had a problem with Budokan.

[TheAtliator]

me neither. I like Budokon, except doesn't it sound like it wasn't recorded very heavy sounding like TOT should be? But I really like that the vocals don't seem touched up- I hope Luna Park is like this one.

[BlobVanDam]

Yup, and Budokan had its good moments, like Trial Of Tears.

Actually, I think all of the FII stuff on Budokan sounds excellent vocally. Budokan really got me into that album.

Budokan's vocals aren't bad at all overall. The only outright poor vocals imo are the last two songs, PMU and ITNOG. JLB is sounding really tired and flat by that point, which is understandable after a long show. He also has some flat moments on the other TOT material, but aside from that, I quite enjoy his vocals on it. Overall I think he sounds better on this than LSFNY.

[wasteland]

It was not a really bad night, but it wasn't one of the vocals highlight from that tour either. My complaint is that they chose the wrong show for the recording. Had they shot NY or one of the last EU shows nobody would have had anything to say about James's vocals!