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King Crimson Appreciation Thread

Started by Kubla, July 29, 2009, 04:13:29 PM

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ytserush

Quote from: El Barto on March 18, 2024, 09:52:55 AM
No, understood.   My point was a veiled "I don't quite get the reverence for the 80s lineup" comment.   I think Discipline is one of the best SOUNDING records in my collection (of over 2,500) but I haven't listened to Beat or Three Of A Perfect Pair in ages.  I'm not even sure I OWN Three Of A Perfect Pair.  Having said that, I could listen to "Fracture" every day if I had to.
The 84 Live in Japan DVD is what got me into them. You should check out the Live at Frejus show (82). One of the coolest openers you'll ever see. It's only 7 songs, I think, but watching them do what they were doing really adds a lot to it, I think. That said, it still has a lot of that Talking Heads vibe, so if that's what you don't connect with then it probably won't move you much.

That is the shit. Definitely a Talking Heads from Belew for obvious reasons but it's so much more than that. Oddly enough, my least favorite Crimson era was pre-Wetton, but after seeing that music brought to live with Jakko and the triple threat drums and percussion. Least favorite era now is probably  the "double duo" era without Tony Levin.

ytserush

Quote from: HOF on March 19, 2024, 11:04:07 AM
There are some shared elements between 80s KC and Talking Heads for sure. But Crimson was still doing their own thing.

Totally.

TheHoveringSojourn808

Stay out of the sun, because it is the worst thing in terms of aging. I'm very medical. I come from a medical family. - Nicole Kidman

skydivingninja

I don't think of Fripp/KC as a very humorous band so this was both disturbing and pretty funny

Stadler

Quote from: skydivingninja on April 01, 2024, 11:56:39 AM
I don't think of Fripp/KC as a very humorous band so this was both disturbing and pretty funny

I think Fripp has a pretty robust sense of humor; some of those COVID videos with his wife are hilarious.

Metro

That OnlyFans video, while obviously an April Fools joke, is disturbing  :lol

Orbert

Everything Robert Fripp does is amazing.  Even when it's total shite, it's still amazing.

skydivingninja

#882
Beat Tour dates! Tickets on sale April 5th: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/steve-vai-tool-danny-carey-king-crimson-beat-tour-1234996077/amp/

Belew mentions that he picked out 14 tunes but they're still finalizing a set. Speculate away! My guesses/wishlist (no order of preference):

1. Elephant Talk
2. Frame By Frame
3. Three of a Perfect Pair
4. Larks Tongues pt 3
5. Thela Hun Ginjeet
6. Indiscipline
7. Discipline
8. Sleepless
9. Industry
10. Absent Lovers
11. The Howler
12. Matte Kudasai
13. Heartbeat
14. Neal and Jack and Me

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

HOF

Pre-sale code here:

https://x.com/THEadrianbelew/status/1775161272192966810?s=20

Quotestay tuned! I'm going to be posting an account of how all this came about. BEAT has me so excited!

As a thank you to our fans, here's a presale code for you. 

Password: BEATTOUR
https://beat-tour.com

Metro

#885
That Richmond date is a maybe.

Even though this all about the 80's era, I wonder if they'll play any of the 70's material that the 80's lineup played. Like The Talking Drum, Larks' 2, and Red.

EDIT: The 80's band never played The Talking Drum. The 90's band did. I apologize for this egregious error.

Stadler

Quote from: Metro on April 02, 2024, 07:25:32 AM
That Richmond date is a maybe.

Even though this all about the 80's era, I wonder if they'll play any of the 70's material that the 80's lineup played. Like The Talking Drum, Larks' 2, and Red.

Red always seemed to be a staple;  it would actually get me to go to hear Vai and Carey on "Fracture".

Metro


hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Bentower

Quote from: Stadler on April 02, 2024, 07:29:10 AM
Red always seemed to be a staple;  it would actually get me to go to hear Vai and Carey on "Fracture".

I'd wager that Fripp's playing in Fracture goes a step too far into the "relentless" category for Vai/most humans.

That interview was absolutely the best thing Beato's done. LOVED every minute of it!

TheHoveringSojourn808

Stay out of the sun, because it is the worst thing in terms of aging. I'm very medical. I come from a medical family. - Nicole Kidman

El Barto

Snagged front row balc for the Dallas show at a pretty reasonable price. Depending on how other tours line up I'll likely be catching this elsewhere. Seems like the sort of thing I want to see a few times. I'm rather fond of NE in the Fall, so that's definitely in the mix.

lonestar

The SF (actually SJ) is a week after Prog Power...I'm gonna have to think about this one.


SoundscapeMN

got my ticket for minneapolis 11/4, day before election day, lol.
"I have facility enough that I can throw down something, and play it, and play it correctly, and play it in time, but that doesn't make good records.  What makes good records for me, is when you capture a performance or you get some feeling that you get on tape and that you know you can't plan for it" -Kevin Gilbert

Phoenix87x

Got tickets for october

Never saw Vai before and never saw Belew before. And I love 80's KC so I'm very excited. This is a cool iteration to see the 80's material performed.

skydivingninja

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 02, 2024, 06:58:03 AM
Tour stop in Durham = HELL YES

I've never seen a prog band do two NC dates. Have some emotional whiplash of being sad theyd be too far for me to travel to being thrilled I get to see Tony really show his stuff. Got my ticket already!  :metal

romdrums

I hope they add Waiting Man into that list. That's probably my favorite tune of this lineup. That list looks solid though. Me and a few of my bandmates are going to the Indianapolis show. That will be awesome!

Nekov

I really hope they do a european tour next year. I really want to see this live

HOF

Quote from: romdrums on April 04, 2024, 06:10:40 AM
I hope they add Waiting Man into that list. That's probably my favorite tune of this lineup. That list looks solid though. Me and a few of my bandmates are going to the Indianapolis show. That will be awesome!

Yes! Waiting Man was the song that hooked me on 80s Crimson. It's a great pop song but the underlying instrumentation is mind blowing.

Phoenix87x

Quote from: romdrums on April 04, 2024, 06:10:40 AM
I hope they add Waiting Man into that list. That's probably my favorite tune of this lineup. That list looks solid though. Me and a few of my bandmates are going to the Indianapolis show. That will be awesome!

I hope so too. That seems like a no brainer and its one of my favorite songs.

I honestly just assumed they were going to play it.

ytserush

Tried to get tickets to this but apparently it's a hot show and the aftermarket has taken notice. We'll be rolling up a few hours before showtime I guess.

countoftuscany42

Another LA show was added at the end of the tour in november, code DISCPLINE works for the promoter presale today


El Barto

Caught BEAT last night and thought it was excellent. Kind of a crappy theater, but great show. There were a couple of spots where I thought Vai and Carrey were more themselves than Fripp and Bruford, but it was rare and really worked well. Really they all did a fantastic job, and Belew the singer really kicked ass. Dude sounded great.

HOF

Yeah, I've been impressed with Belew's voice in all the clips I've seen. Sounds the same as he ever has.

romdrums

Quote from: HOF on September 23, 2024, 08:45:00 AMYeah, I've been impressed with Belew's voice in all the clips I've seen. Sounds the same as he ever has.

Same as he ever was?  ;)

I'm going to see them in Cincinnati at the end of October. After seeing some of the clips, I'm even more excited! I think Steve Vai is one of the few guitarists who could not only play the Fripp parts, but play them respectfully. Watching some of the interviews he's done, he really did his homework, and it's showing in these clips so far! Same with Danny Carey and Bruford's parts.

El Barto

Quote from: romdrums on September 23, 2024, 08:58:09 AMSame as he ever was?  ;)

I'm going to see them in Cincinnati at the end of October. After seeing some of the clips, I'm even more excited! I think Steve Vai is one of the few guitarists who could not only play the Fripp parts, but play them respectfully. Watching some of the interviews he's done, he really did his homework, and it's showing in these clips so far! Same with Danny Carey and Bruford's parts.
Yeah, they really did mostly stay faithful to the originals, right down to style. Like I said, there were one or two instances where they kind of made stuff their own, but they both worked well, and they were very much the exception. The one that jumped out at me was the outro solo to Neil and Jack and Me. It was essentially what Fripp did, but it was 100% Steve Vai. I thought it was awesome.



LithoJazzoSphere

Quote from: El Barto on September 23, 2024, 08:32:10 AMThere were a couple of spots where I thought Vai and Carrey were more themselves than Fripp and Bruford, but it was rare and really worked well.

I'm mostly a fan of KC in the studio, but I know they have a long and rich tradition of live recordings.  There's probably a fine line, but I don't think Fripp would want anyone trying to be a clone of previous members, he was much more about experimentation and uniqueness. 

hefdaddy42

I hope they get to do a good recording of one of these shows for blu-ray.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.