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Started by connolla, July 08, 2014, 08:42:17 AM

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connolla

Hey guys, I've been lurking here for a while but just made an account to see if I could get some answers to some questions. Apologies if this stuff has been answered before, I looked but didn't find anything.

1. During the chorus in "Home", MP & JP are singing some weird background stuff that I've never been able to make out. It doesn't seem to be on any lyric sheets or on the web -- do any of you guys know what they're saying?

2. "Erotomania" is commonly referred to as a joke song on this site and by the band members. Why is that?

Thanks for the help!

Shadow Ninja 2.0

I've never heard anyone refer to Erotomania as a joke song.

KevShmev

Same here. 

Regarding the background stuff in Home, some of it is probably wordless vocals for effect, and some of it might be singing a key word from the chorus and letting it hang in the background while JLB sings the lead vocal over it.  I'd have to listen closely to say for sure.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: connolla on July 08, 2014, 08:42:17 AM
Hey guys, I've been lurking here for a while but just made an account to see if I could get some answers to some questions. Apologies if this stuff has been answered before, I looked but didn't find anything.

1. During the chorus in "Home", MP & JP are singing some weird background stuff that I've never been able to make out. It doesn't seem to be on any lyric sheets or on the web -- do any of you guys know what they're saying?

2. "Erotomania" is commonly referred to as a joke song on this site and by the band members. Why is that?

Thanks for the help!

1. Not sure on that one. I've never been able to quite make it out.

2. I recall that the song originated as the band messing around as a joke, and then it got developed into Erotomania. That's probably what you're thinking of. Beyond that, it's not what anyone would call a joke song.

Quote from: KevShmev on July 08, 2014, 09:13:18 AM
Same here. 

Regarding the background stuff in Home, some of it is probably wordless vocals for effect, and some of it might be singing a key word from the chorus and letting it hang in the background while JLB sings the lead vocal over it.  I'd have to listen closely to say for sure.

It sounds like there are different vowel sounds, so I think it is key words, perhaps not directly from the chorus, but related to the meaning.

connolla

Thanks, guys. Those have been bugging me for a while now.

Ħ

Mike and John sing, "Love! Deceit! Death!"

The three dances from Metropolis Pt. 1.

:hat

FlyingBIZKIT


Setlist Scotty

As was mentioned, DT never considered Erotomania a joke song, but when JP was interviewed for the IaW fanzine back in 1994 and Neil Elliott (the interviewer) commented that it was tight and really flows well, JP responded:
QuoteYou think so? It's strange that it would flow well, because it's an example of sections from a long time ago meshed together with new ideas.
I think I recall reading elsewhere that they kind of laughed at the craziness of the song, just as I believe they laughed at the craziness of the instrumental section in TDEN after they figured it all out. So just because they laughed at something doesn't mean that it is a joke song.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

Kotowboy

At least he didn't ask why Pull Me Under

bosk1

Quote from: Ħ on July 08, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
Mike and John sing, "Love! Deceit! Death!"

The three dances from Metropolis Pt. 1.

:hat

Winner.

Cable

Quote from: Kotowboy on July 08, 2014, 05:59:20 PM
At least he didn't ask why Pull Me Under

:tup

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on July 08, 2014, 05:11:37 PM

I think I recall reading elsewhere that they kind of laughed at the craziness of the song, just as I believe they laughed at the craziness of the instrumental section in TDEN after they figured it all out. So just because they laughed at something doesn't mean that it is a joke song.


As much I am lukewarm about Erotomania, the big JP solo works better in it than PMU/Oliver's Twist. With it, to me it is similar in style to the crazy part of TDEN.

RaiseTheKnife

I recall reading that JP said that he and Kevin Moore were playing around with some concepts that were deliberately nonsensical, which became the opening riff.   This should not be misconstrued as a joke -- as it is only an unconventional approach to composing an unconventional song.

connolla

QuoteAt least he didn't ask why Pull Me Under

Ugh

QuoteMike and John sing, "Love! Deceit! Death!"

The three dances from Metropolis Pt. 1.

Works for me.