Haken v. new single Nightingale (April 26)

[gmillerdrake]

I checked setlist.fm and it looks like there were no Bilateral tracks in St. Louis. 

Song three was "From the Flame" which I really like and five was "The Price" which is their most viewed song on youtube.  The 4th song was a cover, I didn't know the original song, but I enjoyed it when I saw them although I'd rather have seen an original song personally since the sets aren't too long.

I wish I had paid attention better as to which song(s) it was that I liked best. I know it was after their first two songs....then it was a couple there that I dug....then I think the one that RJ is talking about came up because i think I seen a video of it and it seemed to be the popular one.

Haken's light show did bug me a little. Leprous had a fair amount of movement in their lighting, but I didn't notice it strobe much. Haken used quite a bit of strobe. At the Dallas show I was behind some [really inept] moshers, and all of the strobing made it particularly hard to tell what was happening in front of me. Either I couldn't see somebody until they were right on top of me, or I'd see somebody coming and get ready to check them only to find they weren't moving at all (which really makes you look silly).

totally opposite in St. Louis. If anything, there was a point where the fog got a bit out of hand with HAKEN....you couldn't even see Diego for a couple minutes....

[mike099]

When I saw them in Montreal, they played Mb. Indifferentia from Bilateral. I think it was the 4th or 5th song.

Yes, it looks like they are playing the one above or Acquired Taste from Bilateral every third show.  I looked on setlist.com and not sure how reliable it is, but for one of the early shows they apparently played Forced Entry from Bilateral, which is a crowd favorite from the old days and a song that I thought of Haken when I first hear it.

[cramx3]

When I saw them in Montreal, they played Mb. Indifferentia from Bilateral. I think it was the 4th or 5th song.

Yes, it looks like they are playing the one above or Acquired Taste from Bilateral every third show.  I looked on setlist.com and not sure how reliable it is, but for one of the early shows they apparently played Forced Entry from Bilateral, which is a crowd favorite from the old days and a song that I thought of Haken when I first hear it.

That's probably my favorite song I've heard from them.

[goo-goo]

Could anybody pick up a Vector drumming book? I can pay for it plus shipping and beer money or I could trade it for a Haken VIP XL shirt. Whatever your choice. PM please. I live in the states. Dumb for not picking it up in Austin.

Shouldn't be a problem to grab one for you when I hit the Chicago show (assuming they're still in stock).

PM sent.
Thanks

[KevShmev]

I thought the dark stage with Leprous was odd at first, but I get what they are going for.  It is cool too when the whole stage lights are flashing and you see the band members in the flickers, especially since they are all moving the whole time.  They just need to to something about those blinding lights that aim directly in the crowd and make you wish you had anti-seizure medicine.

[Lethean]

When I saw them in Montreal, they played Mb. Indifferentia from Bilateral. I think it was the 4th or 5th song.

Yes, it looks like they are playing the one above or Acquired Taste from Bilateral every third show.  I looked on setlist.com and not sure how reliable it is, but for one of the early shows they apparently played Forced Entry from Bilateral, which is a crowd favorite from the old days and a song that I thought of Haken when I first hear it.

That's probably my favorite song I've heard from them.

Forced Entry is one of my favorite songs by any band. That said, they played it a lot on the last tour, and it is pretty long, so I don't mind them not playing it now to make room for more new material.  I'd love to see it again in the future though.

[mike099]

Just got back from the show in Nashville.  The place holds 500 and it was not sold out, but a good crowd. 
Bent Knee - They started the set with a chant ' not dead yet ' and happy to be back after the accident.  They even had a jar at the merchandise booth for van replacement donations.  Musically they were ok, but not my thing.

Leprous - As expected, nothing from Bilateral.  About half the songs rocked, but the others sounded similar and not much meat to them. The strings were a nice touch.

Haken - Really tight set that seemed to fly by.  The songs sound much better live.  Nil by mouth was awesome live and as Lonestar said the encore was . The drummer and keyboard player were particularly awesome.

If you get a chance to see the show, you will not be disappointed. 

Now on to my next two concerts, Steven Wilson and Dream Theater.  Hopefully they will be as good as Haken.

[cramx3]

Now on to my next two concerts, Steven Wilson

yea man this saturday for me, looking forward to it

[KevShmev]

Haken - Really tight set that seemed to fly by.  The songs sound much better live.  Nil by mouth was awesome live and as Lonestar said the encore was . The drummer and keyboard player were particularly awesome.

Agreed. Everyone in the band does a tremendous job on their respective instrument, but I watch Tejeida and Hearne the most.  Tejeida is as good as just about keyboard player out there right now, and I'd be hard pressed to think of a better drummer right now in the prog scene as good as Hearne.

[Implode]

The Chicago show was amazing as always. It was awesome to see all the familiar faces there. It was unfortunate that my car ended up being broken into during the concert but...that was just due to unfortunate planning on me and my friend's part.

I can't wait for them to come back again!

[cramx3]

The Chicago show was amazing as always. It was awesome to see all the familiar faces there. It was unfortunate that my car ended up being broken into during the concert but...that was just due to unfortunate planning on me and my friend's part.

I can't wait for them to come back again!

Damn that sucks.  Did anything special happen for the last show of the tour?  Would have been cool to see both bands do something together.

[Implode]

Not this time. A few of the other bands members messed with Haken as they were playing their encore, one got Richard to mess up one of his solos. But the didn't play together this year.

[cramx3]

Not this time. A few of the other bands members messed with Haken as they were playing their encore, one got Richard to mess up one of his solos. But the didn't play together this year.

Ahh cool, at least good to see some last show shenanigans

[Puppies_On_Acid]

Haken - Really tight set that seemed to fly by.  The songs sound much better live.  Nil by mouth was awesome live and as Lonestar said the encore was . The drummer and keyboard player were particularly awesome.

Agreed. Everyone in the band does a tremendous job on their respective instrument, but I watch Tejeida and Hearne the most.  Tejeida is as good as just about keyboard player out there right now, and I'd be hard pressed to think of a better drummer right now in the prog scene as good as Hearne.

While I agree that the drummer is really good, I don't think he holds a candle to Blake Richardson.

I did finally get around to listening to Vector enough to give it a rating. It ended up with an 8/10. It's really good, but I don't think it was as adventurous as Affinity. At least not to my ears. Definitely one to revisit though.

[Evermind]

The VIP packages for European tour are up at:

https://www.hakenmusic.com/store

Just bought my VIP upgrade for the Hamburg show.

[krands85]

Any word on the support for the European shows?

[Evermind]

Not yet from what I saw, but there will be some kind of support I guess as my ticket says "Haken plus special guest".

[Fritzinger]

How awesome it would be to just see Haken perform a Rush-esque 180 minute set.

[me7]

It would kill Ross.

[RoeDent]

And they only have 5 albums and an EP to pick from. At the moment they'd be playing most of their discography in a single night.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

And they only have 5 albums and an EP to pick from. At the moment they'd be playing most of their discography in a single night.

Yeah....I think we're good with that.

[Mladen]

How awesome it would be to just see Haken perform a Rush-esque 180 minute set.

Did anyone say "wish set list time?" 

Set 1:
1. Clear
2. The Good doctor
3. Insomnia
4. Falling back to earth
5. As death embraces
6. Earthrise
7. Aquarium
8. Puzzle box
- - - -
Set 2:
9. Atlas stone
10. Cockroach king
11. 1985
12. Veil
13. Nil by mouth
14. Visions
- - - -
Encore:
15. Celestial elixir

[twosuitsluke]

Visions followed by Celestial Elixir?

[jammindude]

Set 1:

Clear/The Good Doctor
1985
In Memoriam
The Mind's Eye
Portals
Shapeshifter
As Death Embraces
Drowning in the Flood
Earthlings
Falling Back to Earth

Set 2:

The Atlas Stone
Cockroach King
Puzzle Box
Veil
The Endless Knot
Deathless
Celestial Elixir

Encore:
Bound by Gravity
Crystallised

[krands85]

Some of the tracks I'd really love to hear would be Celestial Elixir, Crystallised, 1985, The Architect, The Endless Knot, The Good Doctor, Puzzle Box and A Cell Divides.

But I just hope it's a good long set because the first time I saw them it was co-headlining with Leprous (which was cool), but it meant quite a short set, which was truncated even more due to the venue curfew. 

[Fritzinger]

Visions followed by Celestial Elixir?

If I recall correctly, I saw this once, around 2012/13 or so in the Bergkeller Reichenbach (100 people at best). Could be that it was the other way round. It was awesome.

[Metro]

Set 1:
Clear
The Good Doctor
1985
Cockroach King
Darkest Light
The Mind's Eye
Portals
Shapeshifter
Celestial Elixer
-----------------
Set 2:
affinity.exe
Initiate
Puzzle Box
In Memoriam
Nil By Mouth
As Death Embraces
Veil
Visions
-----------------
Encore:
Bound By Gravity

[Rattlehead]

Set 1:

Clear/The Good Doctor
1985
In Memoriam
The Mind's Eye
Portals
Shapeshifter
As Death Embraces
Drowning in the Flood
Earthlings
Falling Back to Earth

Set 2:

The Atlas Stone
Cockroach King
Puzzle Box
Veil
The Endless Knot
Deathless
Celestial Elixir

Encore:
Bound by Gravity
Crystallised

This would be awesome... I love that you included Earthlings too 

[jammindude]

Set 1:

Clear/The Good Doctor
1985
In Memoriam
The Mind's Eye
Portals
Shapeshifter
As Death Embraces
Drowning in the Flood
Earthlings
Falling Back to Earth

Set 2:

The Atlas Stone
Cockroach King
Puzzle Box
Veil
The Endless Knot
Deathless
Celestial Elixir

Encore:
Bound by Gravity
Crystallised

This would be awesome... I love that you included Earthlings too 

I made it "from the gut" thinking I might tweak it later, but the more I look at it, the more I love it.

In looking back on it, Vector seems a tad underrepresented (considering this "pipe dream" would be a tour for that album) and with that in mind I would try to squeeze either Host or Nil by Mouth into the 2nd set without changing anything else.

EDIT - I just added up all the times and found that I'm running at a little over 66 min for the first set, and a little over 67 for the 2nd set, and just short of 28 for the encore. That rounds off to about a 160min show. So adding one more might be a stretch. But if I did have a full 180 available, I would add Host to the first set and Nil by Mouth to the 2nd. (That way you have one instrumental in each set as opposed to putting both in the first half of the show)

[Elite]

Visions followed by Celestial Elixir?

If I recall correctly, I saw this once, around 2012/13 or so in the Bergkeller Reichenbach (100 people at best). Could be that it was the other way round. It was awesome.

Yeah, I saw the same once as well. Was awesome indeed!

[Evermind]

Support bands for European tour are Bent Knee and VOLA. I guess that means Haken won't get a longer set, but on the other hand, I get to see Bent Knee.

[Mladen]

Haken and Vola playing together is such a great moment in modern prog history. However, I still don't feel like travelling. God, I wish they played my city.

[Fritzinger]

Well the last times I saw them they also had two support bands, but then played for at least 90 mins.

[krands85]

Support bands for European tour are Bent Knee and VOLA. I guess that means Haken won't get a longer set, but on the other hand, I get to see Bent Knee.

That's a pity, I was hoping it would only be 1 support band - Haken only played a 70minute set the first time I saw them

I've always wondered, what's the reasoning behind having 2 support acts? Is it to pad out the crowd a bit with fans from the smaller bands?
EDIT:
I may have listened to a Vola track a while back, but other than that, I don't know anything about the support bands, so I'll check them out on Youtube 

[goo-goo]

That's a fucking sweet lineup. Wished Vola toured the States with them. Maybe next run...