Metallica Thread

[bosk1]

Stadler DTF posting template:

1.  "I'm not telling you what to think, but [insert post telling people what to think]."

2.  "I'm not saying you are 'wrong,' but [insert post opining that the poster is, in Stadler's eyes, most decidedly wrong]."

3.  [insert post showing that Stadler's opinion is the polar opposite of the poster]  "But we're really not that far apart."

 

[Samsara]

 

[Stadler]

Stadler DTF posting template:

1.  "I'm not telling you what to think, but [insert post telling people what to think]."

2.  "I'm not saying you are 'wrong,' but [insert post opining that the poster is, in Stadler's eyes, most decidedly wrong]."

3.  [insert post showing that Stadler's opinion is the polar opposite of the poster]  "But we're really not that far apart."

 

I'm not saying you're wrong... but....

I have tables and statistics, too. 

[bosk1]

  Right, I forgot about those.

And:  [Canada is always wrong]

[pg1067]

5. Use as many dependent clauses, set off by commas, as possible.

[bosk1]

5. Use as many dependent clauses, set off by commas, as possible.

Are you saying this thread is somehow about me now?

[Stadler]

  Right, I forgot about those.

And:  [Canada is always wrong]

We're not far apart on this, but, as I have said many times before, that excludes beer, where, because of a) the water, b) history, and c) because Rush says so, they do make good beer.   

Sometimes.   www.stadlersalwaysright.com/statistics-you-need-to-be-aware-of-to-make-sense-of-his-posts

[TheOutlawXanadu]

I just picked up a ticket to see Metallica later in the month, thus making 13-year-old TOX's dream come true. I am stoked!

[axeman90210]

I just picked up a ticket to see Metallica later in the month, thus making 13-year-old TOX's dream come true. I am stoked!

This'll be your first time seeing them?

[ReaperKK]

A little off topic and might have been posted before but Mike Dawes' cover of One is probably one my favorite versions of the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGc5in2F_Rg

[Adami]

Also did anyone ever check out that acoustic show they did not too long ago?

Some of those renditions were just fantastic. Minus Hardwired, which they just did regular...but acoustic. Weird choice.

But their versions of Horsemen and Disposable Heroes was really great, and so were most of the rest. They had some extra musicians which really added to the sound.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

I just picked up a ticket to see Metallica later in the month, thus making 13-year-old TOX's dream come true. I am stoked!

This'll be your first time seeing them?

It is! Definitely a musical dream come true for me. The arena also happens to be across the street from my work, which is super convenient.

[mikeyd23]

Also did anyone ever check out that acoustic show they did not too long ago?

Some of those renditions were just fantastic. Minus Hardwired, which they just did regular...but acoustic. Weird choice.

But their versions of Horsemen and Disposable Heroes was really great, and so were most of the rest. They had some extra musicians which really added to the sound.

Killer stuff Adami. Like you said, Horsemen and Disposable were great, I didn't even know what songs they were until James started singing. They did post a couple songs from that show on YouTube, for those that want to check it out:

The Four Horsemen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMRAgrGQV6I

Disposable Heroes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ermTPnZ6H7U

All Within My Hands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhOIsM4jQE

Adding the extra musicians was a great idea, they filled out the arrangements really well and added some good backing vocals.

[TAC]

It's available!
http://www.livemetallica.com//live-music/0,682/Metallica-mp3-flac-download-11-3-2018-SF-Masonic-San-Francisco-CA.html

[cramx3]

That's really cool 

[OpenYourEyes311]

That show is also being released on vinyl, although it might be sold out:

https://www.metallica.com/store/helping-hands-vinyl/AWMHBENEFITLP.html

[Samsara]

It's available!
http://www.livemetallica.com//live-music/0,682/Metallica-mp3-flac-download-11-3-2018-SF-Masonic-San-Francisco-CA.html

How is the performance of "Bleeding Me?" It's the only song I'm really interested in having from that show, if it is good. One of the few songs I tolerate from LOAD.

[TAC]

I don't know. Following the discussion, I checked the site and linked. I'm considering a purchase though.

[Grappler]

It's available!
http://www.livemetallica.com//live-music/0,682/Metallica-mp3-flac-download-11-3-2018-SF-Masonic-San-Francisco-CA.html

How is the performance of "Bleeding Me?" It's the only song I'm really interested in having from that show, if it is good. One of the few songs I tolerate from LOAD.

Bleeding Me:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu9dfbszgjI

James sounds fantastic.

[Samsara]

It's available!
http://www.livemetallica.com//live-music/0,682/Metallica-mp3-flac-download-11-3-2018-SF-Masonic-San-Francisco-CA.html

How is the performance of "Bleeding Me?" It's the only song I'm really interested in having from that show, if it is good. One of the few songs I tolerate from LOAD.

THanks!


Bleeding Me:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu9dfbszgjI

James sounds fantastic.

[Ben_Jamin]

Disposable Heroes sounds like Opeth.

[Samsara]

Based on my experience with the ...And Justice for All box set, I went ahead and bought the one for Master of Puppets. It'll be here Thursday from Amazon. I noticed that on Amazon.co.uk, the set is way more expensive (even after doing the conversion) than it is here. And since the box set is limited and I don't see it for sale on Metallica.com any longer, I figured even though I was on the fence, it would probably be a smart purchase. It looks pretty bad ass. That's probably it for me in terms of Metallica boxes. I'm not a big fan of Kill Em All, and while I like Ride the Lightning, I don't love it as nearly as a complete work as I do Puppets and AJFA.

I'm really looking forward to checking it all out. I have the Back to the Front: A Fully Authorized Visual History of the Master of Puppets Album and Tour book by Matt Taylor, so I am hoping the photos in the MOP box set book don't overlap and the content is different. But the rest of it looks pretty bad ass.

So that'll make three albums for me I've invested in these big boxes - Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger, Metallica: MOP, Metallica: AJFA.

Home runs on the two I have so far, and I expect MOP to be a third...

[bosk1]

Disposable Heroes sounds like Opeth.

Yeah, it's actually pretty obvious that they borrowed heavily from Opeth on that one.

[nobloodyname]

Based on my experience with the ...And Justice for All box set, I went ahead and bought the one for Master of Puppets. It'll be here Thursday from Amazon. I noticed that on Amazon.co.uk, the set is way more expensive (even after doing the conversion) than it is here. And since the box set is limited and I don't see it for sale on Metallica.com any longer, I figured even though I was on the fence, it would probably be a smart purchase. It looks pretty bad ass. That's probably it for me in terms of Metallica boxes. I'm not a big fan of Kill Em All, and while I like Ride the Lightning, I don't love it as nearly as a complete work as I do Puppets and AJFA.

I'm really looking forward to checking it all out. I have the Back to the Front: A Fully Authorized Visual History of the Master of Puppets Album and Tour book by Matt Taylor, so I am hoping the photos in the MOP box set book don't overlap and the content is different. But the rest of it looks pretty bad ass.

So that'll make three albums for me I've invested in these big boxes - Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger, Metallica: MOP, Metallica: AJFA.

Home runs on the two I have so far, and I expect MOP to be a third...

You'll like it, it's a good set. For me, the only downside of the four released so far is the editing of the text in the books.

And yes, the pricing over here is awful, always has been (except with Justice was on pre-order).

[mikeyd23]

Disposable Heroes sounds like Opeth.

Yeah, it's actually pretty obvious that they borrowed heavily from Opeth on that one.

[Samsara]

Based on my experience with the ...And Justice for All box set, I went ahead and bought the one for Master of Puppets. It'll be here Thursday from Amazon. I noticed that on Amazon.co.uk, the set is way more expensive (even after doing the conversion) than it is here. And since the box set is limited and I don't see it for sale on Metallica.com any longer, I figured even though I was on the fence, it would probably be a smart purchase. It looks pretty bad ass. That's probably it for me in terms of Metallica boxes. I'm not a big fan of Kill Em All, and while I like Ride the Lightning, I don't love it as nearly as a complete work as I do Puppets and AJFA.

I'm really looking forward to checking it all out. I have the Back to the Front: A Fully Authorized Visual History of the Master of Puppets Album and Tour book by Matt Taylor, so I am hoping the photos in the MOP box set book don't overlap and the content is different. But the rest of it looks pretty bad ass.

So that'll make three albums for me I've invested in these big boxes - Soundgarden: Badmotorfinger, Metallica: MOP, Metallica: AJFA.

Home runs on the two I have so far, and I expect MOP to be a third...

You'll like it, it's a good set. For me, the only downside of the four released so far is the editing of the text in the books.

And yes, the pricing over here is awful, always has been (except with Justice was on pre-order).

I'm in the U.S., but I've noticed that once in awhile, I can get stuff cheaper in the UK, if I am willing to wait a week or two for it to arrive (which I am usually fine with). But not this time around. My Lord. LOL

Glad you like the set. I'm looking forward to getting it tomorrow. Those will be the only two from Metallica that I buy (I want the RtL one, but honestly, there isn't enough in it for me to justify it), and I'll be pretty happy with it.

[Samsara]

I still haven't even opened the box, but I did download everything (via Amazon rip). All the music is killer. Love the live gigs. Such crazy energy. And Jason's audition was shocking. I mean, they were NOT tight, and James sounded horrendous. Crazy. I mean, to be expected, given the situation, but wow.

Can't wait to dive into the book later this week.

[mikeyd23]

I still haven't even opened the box, but I did download everything (via Amazon rip). All the music is killer. Love the live gigs. Such crazy energy. And Jason's audition was shocking. I mean, they were NOT tight, and James sounded horrendous. Crazy. I mean, to be expected, given the situation, but wow.

Can't wait to dive into the book later this week.

There have been accounts that James was waaaay beyond drunk for Jason's audition.

[The Walrus]

I'm seeing Metallica in Indianapolis on March 11... Rock on.

[cramx3]

I'm seeing Metallica in Indianapolis on March 11... Rock on.

Don't forget to download your copy of your show afterwards.  Use your barcode from the ticket on their website and you get a free download.  Pretty awesome perk of a metallica concert if you ask me. 

[The Walrus]

I'm seeing Metallica in Indianapolis on March 11... Rock on.

Don't forget to download your copy of your show afterwards.  Use your barcode from the ticket on their website and you get a free download.  Pretty awesome perk of a metallica concert if you ask me.

Whoa wtf really? That is COOL!

[mikeyd23]

^ Yep, and the quality of their LiveMet shows has been really good this whole tour cycle. The mixes are really solid.

[TheOutlawXanadu]

I just picked up a ticket to see Metallica later in the month, thus making 13-year-old TOX's dream come true. I am stoked!

This'll be your first time seeing them?

It is! Definitely a musical dream come true for me. The arena also happens to be across the street from my work, which is super convenient.

The show was amazing. It actually set a record for highest attendance at the PNC Arena in Raleigh. I also caught a guitar pick from Rob! Even though I was super tired after a crazy day of work, I am so glad that I went. Definitely a "bucket list" show for me.

[Dream Team]

Just copying this post from the Maidenfans forum as it perfectly describes the transition from 80s to 90s Metallica.

Look at it this way — the standard bearers of complex, melodic thrash metal had been finding success on their own terms, playing music that wasn't really structured for the radio at all, and they had still built up enough of a following to be headlining arena shows. Then they do their first-ever music video and it gets a surprising amount of attention. Good for them.

Now fast forward a couple of years and what happens? The band known for complex song structures, lots of riffs per song, varied tempos, epic harmonized sections, and fairly technical drumming puts out an intentionally radio-friendly album with simplistic song structures, one riff per song, everything pretty close to 120 bpm, wanky solos with too much wah pedal, and simplistic, boring drumming, then churns out the music videos left and right, after saying over and over again back in the day that they'd never do such a thing. They explode on radio and MTV, sell a ridiculous number of albums, and become the darlings of frat houses everywhere. How does that not come off as a sellout?

Then you follow them down the rabbit hole with Load and Reload where they abandon their previous image entirely (logo, physical appearance, etc.), give interviews where they say they're not a metal band anymore and joke that they should be called "Rockatallica", put out 160 minutes of music that probably only had about 40-50 minutes of worthwhile material across both albums, and do things like blatantly rehash "Enter Sandman" in the form of "King Nothing", and do "The Unforgiven II" which rehashes the original song and has Hetfield literally singing "now you're unforgiven too" in it. Is this ironic performance art? Do they not give a shit? Are they just trolling their casual fans to see what happens? Whatever the interpretation, it sure didn't look like a creatively inspired band at that point. It looked like they were phoning it in for a payday.

And don't get me started on St. Anger. That was a bridge too far for most of their fans, including me.

I get that the black album has its fans. It has some really good pop metal songs on it. But if you were already a Metallica fan at that time, it felt like "Metallica For Dummies" — and guess what, a lot of dumb-ass frat boys immediately fell in love with it. Mission accomplished...?

[MirrorMask]

For what it's worth, I consider The Unforgiven II a wonderful ballad on par with the original, and even though seeing the title on the tracklist makes you go  , when you hear the actual song you get how brilliant is the connection.

The Unforgiven III was overkill, but Unforgiven II is awesome. A rare case where the sequel lives up to the original.

Also: where do I have to sign to hear the song live in May when I'll see them? (Please don't answer me on this, I love surprises so I don't want to know if the song is actually in the set, nor "dude, check setlist.fm, they haven't played it since 7 years")