The Astonishing Billboard Chart Prediction (merged)

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TL

#35
February 01, 2016, 01:51:33 PM
We actually already have a thread for this;
https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=45572.0

I'll repeat my predictions from that one.

First week US sales: 37,000
US Billboard: #7
Canada: #6

Quote from: Chino on February 01, 2016, 07:30:32 AM
Quote from: Nmilton1 on February 01, 2016, 07:25:39 AM
The Astonishing is the #4 ranked item in music sales on Amazon.com.  It is behind only Adele. David Bowie, and the Eagles.   Not positive, but I would bet that this is the highest rank that one of their releases has ever been.   I would also guess that this is one of the higher rankings for any metal/prog band releases for this year.  Maybe Megadeth's album was higher, but not definite. 

I would assume that this would translate to a decent billboard rank.   

DT seems to always get outperformed by dead people. Didn't Michael Jackson have six albums beat DT after his death?
Not in the US, at least. On the US Billboard chart, if an album has left the main chart, it will switch over to the 'catalog' chart. I think there's also a maximum number of weeks it can be on. Unless they've made a change recently.

As for Bowie, I think Blackstar was going to chart higher regardless.

ariich

#36
February 01, 2016, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: TL on February 01, 2016, 01:51:33 PM
We actually already have a thread for this
And now they are one. :)

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cramx3

#37
February 01, 2016, 02:07:38 PM
Anyone know when the numbers come in?

Dream Team

#38
February 03, 2016, 11:14:30 AM
Why do deaths make people buy albums?? You can't listen to their music while they're alive? I don't get it.

jcmoorehead

#39
February 03, 2016, 11:29:10 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on February 03, 2016, 11:14:30 AM
Why do deaths make people buy albums?? You can't listen to their music while they're alive? I don't get it.

A number of reasons really, it makes people who have always meant to check out the artists stuff finally take that step to doing so. It makes people who might have liked them go "Oh I wonder what their most recent one was" or "Damn, I really liked them I should get their classic stuff" or people just do it in tribute. I don't imagine there is any one reason but a number of them that contribute.

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Someone mentioned the Micheal Jackson thing earlier, in the UK that happened. They were on course for around top 5 if I remember correctly, and then he died and had a number of albums surge up the charts which pushed them down to about 11th or so. Can't quite remember the exact numbers but it was something like that.

wizard of Thought

#40
February 03, 2016, 12:08:09 PM
TA is currently at rank 13 in Amazon.de (Germany). It probably may hit the top 10 since it performed slightly better in the last few days (I think the top spot I noticed was 5).

Kotowboy

#41
February 03, 2016, 12:30:38 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on February 01, 2016, 02:07:38 PM
Anyone know when the numbers come in?

Friday I think.

Kotowboy

#42
February 03, 2016, 12:31:41 PM
 :biggrin: Still find it funny that this thread comes up as " The Astonishing Bill..."

cramx3

#43
February 03, 2016, 01:52:59 PM
Bill = Gabriel?

SwedishGoose

#44
February 03, 2016, 02:34:30 PM
Just had a look on www.ginza.se (a major swedish internet store selling CDs and DVDs and more...)

Their top 5 best sellers now are:

1. David Bowie - Blackstar CD (contributed to that one)
2. David Bowie - Best of Bowie 1969-2002
3. Dream Theater - The Astonising (contributed to that one)
4. David Bowie - Blackstar (Vinyl)
5. Adele - 25

noxon

#45
February 03, 2016, 02:42:38 PM
The main list (billboard 200) gets updated tuesdays and the rock list gets updated wednesdays.

Megadeth came into the list today: https://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-albums

https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

I wouldn't be surprised if DT has somewhat of the same performance.

SwedishGoose

#46
February 03, 2016, 02:46:09 PM
Just had a look at the other major swedish online store for music (www.cdon.se)

The Astonishing is in third place after David Bowie and Adele...

Seems to be selling well in Sweden at least :-)

jcmoorehead

#47
February 03, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Currently at number 8 in the UK, if that keeps up it'll be their highest placing. Here's hoping :)

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

SwedishGoose

#48
February 03, 2016, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: jcmoorehead on February 03, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
Currently at number 8 in the UK, if that keeps up it'll be their highest placing. Here's hoping :)

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart-update/

Nice... this album is really Astonishing and should sell a lot (IMHO)

Architeuthis

#49
February 03, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: ariich on February 01, 2016, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: TL on February 01, 2016, 01:51:33 PM
We actually already have a thread for this
And now they are one. :)
"Linked by an endless thread, impossible to break"

ResultsMayVary

#50
February 03, 2016, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: noxon on February 03, 2016, 02:42:38 PM
The main list (billboard 200) gets updated tuesdays and the rock list gets updated wednesdays.

Megadeth came into the list today: https://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-albums

https://www.billboard.com/charts/billboard-200

I wouldn't be surprised if DT has somewhat of the same performance.
If those numbers were released today, we should expect the US numbers for DT next Wednesday.

emtee

#51
February 05, 2016, 07:06:50 AM
Looks like data coming out in bits and pieces today. I have not read links but apparently Germany #5 and Dutch charts #4.
No clue if this is higher or lower than normal.

Hopefully their risk pays off!

wizard of Thought

#52
February 05, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
Quote from: emtee on February 05, 2016, 07:06:50 AM
Looks like data coming out in bits and pieces today. I have not read links but apparently Germany #5 and Dutch charts #4.
No clue if this is higher or lower than normal.

Hopefully their risk pays off!

Well, at least in Germany, BC&SL, ADTOE (both #3) and DT12 (#4) have performed better. Still a good position TA is in right now.

noxon

#53
February 05, 2016, 08:44:15 AM
But this time around DT has to compete with Adele and David Bowie. Not quite fair...

DreamerTV

#55
February 05, 2016, 08:55:27 AM
Italy: 3rd.

Recent positions:
Octavarium 2nd
SC 2nd
BC&SL 5th
ADTOE 3rd
DT 2nd

wizard of Thought

#56
February 05, 2016, 09:11:26 AM
Quote from: noxon on February 05, 2016, 08:44:15 AM
But this time around DT has to compete with Adele and David Bowie. Not quite fair...

Actually DT was in front of Adele in Germany (Bowie being #4).

DeanTheater

#58
February 05, 2016, 09:29:48 AM
https://hitsdailydouble.com/building_album_chart


This site states 6th in us as of today, wit 27000 plus in sales.  Pretty good.

Mladen

#59
February 05, 2016, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: noxon on February 05, 2016, 08:44:15 AM
But this time around DT has to compete with Adele and David Bowie. Not quite fair...
They're in damn good company, as far as I'm concerned. A huge international star and a God.

RoeDent

#60
February 05, 2016, 10:37:19 AM
I don't think DT have ever got into the overall albums Top 10 in the UK, so No. 11 would be their highest ever placing. For a 130-minute rock opera, in this day and age, that is quite remarkable!

Also worth pointing out that it's No. 1 on the UK Rock chart.

jcmoorehead

#61
February 05, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: RoeDent on February 05, 2016, 10:37:19 AM
I don't think DT have ever got into the overall albums Top 10 in the UK, so No. 11 would be their highest ever placing. For a 130-minute rock opera, in this day and age, that is quite remarkable!

Also worth pointing out that it's No. 1 on the UK Rock chart.

That's awesome that it's at 1 in the Rock Chart.

Number 11 is an awesome achievement. The update had it still at number 8 earlier in the week but considering who else is in there it would have been a big ask.

SwedishGoose

#62
February 06, 2016, 06:24:23 AM
In the swedish chart The Astonishing got straight in to 3rd place moving David Bowie Blackstar down to 4th place...

1. Justin Bieber - Purpouse
2. Maryam Bryant - Hisingen och hem igen (very popular swedish singer)
3. Dream Theater - The Astonishing
4. David Bowie - Blackstar
5. Lukas Graham - s/t

https://www.sverigetopplistan.se/

Kotowboy

#63
February 06, 2016, 08:18:08 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on January 18, 2016, 11:35:59 AM
I'm gonna say #6 on the Billboard.

Quote from: DeanTheater on February 05, 2016, 09:29:48 AM
https://hitsdailydouble.com/building_album_chart


This site states 6th in us as of today, wit 27000 plus in sales.  Pretty good.


:biggrin:

As I Am

#64
February 06, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
I'd expect somewhere between 8-15

?

#65
February 07, 2016, 05:12:48 AM
#2 in Finland: https://ifpi.fi/tilastot/virallinen-lista/albumit/2016/5

DT12 reached the same position, while BC&SL and ADTOE peaked at #1.

Enigmachine

#67
February 07, 2016, 07:35:00 AM
It's nice to see an album like this sell really well.

Kix

#69
February 08, 2016, 08:19:04 AM
Pleased with the #11 for the UK - Coldplay leaped ahead of us towards the end of the week, following the viral spread of that Chris Martin/James Cordon video clip. We hung in the top 10 for most of it until then. It's still their highest ever in the UK, and the week 1 sales in the UK were also higher than the week 1 sales of the last one - even more impressive, when the market has declined again since last time - much harder to increase the actual numbers, as well as the chart position.
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