Marvel's Movie/TV Universe v2 (SPOILERS)

[lonestar]

Damn that sucks, especially after a really strong season 2.

I wouldn't call it really strong, but a big improvement and had potential for a really strong season 3.


I actually wonder if all the shows will be cancelled in the next 1-2 years since Disney's streaming services is popping up around then.

Not sure... DD comes out in a week, and JJ S3 is in production.

[Adami]

Oh yea. DD season 3, JJ season 2, Punisher season 2, and Luke Cage season 3 are locked.

I guess I'm thinking after those. All of which will be out (I assume) within 2 years.

[jingle.boy]

Damn that sucks, especially after a really strong season 2.

I wouldn't call it really strong, but a big improvement and had potential for a really strong season 3.


I actually wonder if all the shows will be cancelled in the next 1-2 years since Disney's streaming services is popping up around then.

That's the rumour ... that a lot of bit franchise names (Loki, Scarlett Witch - did someone post that here earlier?) are going to be exclusive to Disney streaming).

[jammindude]

That stinks.  I actually liked season 1 a lot and I was just getting into season 2. 

I suppose this means no second season of The Defenders either. 

[lonestar]

Just texted with the kid about it, and she says there's no way the Netflix series would be on a Disney streaming service since they are all rated R and outside the Disney brand.

[Adami]

Just texted with the kid about it, and she says there's no way the Netflix series would be on a Disney streaming service since they are all rated R and outside the Disney brand.

Yup, and that totally applies to DD and Punisher and Jessica Jones and maybe even Luke Cage, but the one Netflix show that doesn't need to be, and really shouldn't be R rated and outside the Disney brand is Iron Fist. He's actually a fun guy. They made the show really dark and it wasn't reflective of much of the comics.

Personally, I hope they just make a Heroes for Hire show instead, but if they do bring Iron Fist to Disney Streaming, it'd be the one show that could work.

[Zook]

What is it with Sony and always showing the last scene of a movie in the trailers?

[Cyclopssss]

Pretty bummed about Iron Fist being cancelled, thought the second season was excellent. Might this mean though we get a Moon/Knight series?

[bosk1]

To go along with my earlier theories about Avengers 4:  Relating to the different scenarios that Dr. Strange saw playing out, and his "this was the only way" comment, I was thinking that the outcome of Infinity War was pretty much set to play out about how it did in every single scenario.  "Winning" is not somehow about altering that stage of the timeline--defeat and the nature of that defeat were inevitable.  But perhaps Strange was merely manipulating who would and would not survive the snap.  If you think about the idea of looking at different potential outcomes, and there is only one where they "win," you can basically boil it down to statistical analysis.  And perhaps that statistical analysis does not depend on the facts of what actually happens in the battles, but on certain combinations of key individuals surviving and not surviving the snap.  In other words, "winning" at some point down the road is determined by something along the lines of "individuals A, B, C, D... must survive the snap; individuals P, Q, R, S... must not."  And maybe for a lot of you, this is a "well, duh!" theory.  I mean, it is heavily implied in Infinity War that Stark's survival was key.  But it had not occurred to me until just now that there may have been a necessary bigger combination of individual survivors and nonsurvivors that had to be set up for the "winning" scenario. 

EDIT:  I mean, if you think about it, Strange knew there was only one "winning" outcome.  And he apparently knew that he would have to give up the time stone to accomplish that.  So why engage in that big fight on Titan?  He has to have been manipulating the outcome somehow.  I guess one possible explanation is that he was buying time because he needed certain events to happen elsewhere.  But another explanation is that he was manipulating who would and would not survive.  I think Thanos has some (or possibly complete) control over who remained and who did not.  I think, left to his own devices, Thanos leave the original Avengers intact unless he has to kill any of them off to get one of the stones to begin with.  Sure, they are dangerous.  But he also respects them.  And I think he basically sees them as "fit enough to survive."  On the flip side, I think he plans on killing off Starlord, Drax, and Mantis for being associated with Gamorra and trying to stop him on Knowhere (I don't think he particularly cares about Groot and Rocket, if he even specifically knows of them).  I think Strange knows that the original Avengers must live, and that all the heroes on Titan other than Stark and Nebula must not survive (Strange in particular).  Maybe Strange sees that he will have to communicate back from "the other side."  Dunno.  But in any case, maybe he fights so hard and uses so much of his own bag of tricks to make sure that Thanos takes them all out with the snap.  Other than Stark, and Strange manipulates the fight to stop it and secure Thanos' promise to spare Stark at the last possible moment.  And he knows Thanos will spare Nebula because she is still his daughter, and despite Garmorra being the favorite and torturing Nebula, he still "loves" her in some twisted way.  But everyone else MUST go.  There could certainly be other key people who either had to survive or had to not survive, but I think the original Avengers and Nebula surviving, and the remaining heroes on Titan not surviving were somehow key, and that Strange manipulated that specific combination (and possibly others) with his actions.

Anyhow, some more fun (or not) morning ramblings...

[Samsara]

After being underwhelmed by Iron First Season One when it came out, we waited, but finally started Season Two. MUCH better so far (through the first five episodes). Looking forward to finishing it up this weekend, and then on to the next season of Daredevil, which I believe gets released this weekend.

[MinistroRaven]

After being underwhelmed by Iron First Season One when it came out, we waited, but finally started Season Two. MUCH better so far (through the first five episodes). Looking forward to finishing it up this weekend, and then on to the next season of Daredevil, which I believe gets released this weekend.

DD release date its October 19th

[Lax]

Finally got to see ant man 2 and well...Apart the trailer already seen scenes and the post credit scene, it wasn't very enjoyable.
I don't like A to B movies, vilains are weak...It's like I'm too old to like it.

Avengers IW and Deadpool2 were the last masterpieces I saw.
I can't wait to see avengers annihilation.

Honestly, seeing the trailers and the actress charism, I feel like captain marvel is going to be abusively narrative and slow

[jammindude]

Finally got to see ant man 2 and well...Apart the trailer already seen scenes and the post credit scene, it wasn't very enjoyable.
I don't like A to B movies, vilains are weak...It's like I'm too old to like it.

Avengers IW and Deadpool2 were the last masterpieces I saw.
I can't wait to see avengers annihilation.

Honestly, seeing the trailers and the actress charism, I feel like captain marvel is going to be abusively narrative and slow

Is this the official title?  Where did you see this?

[Adami]

Not official. Just a rumor. No official title yet.

[Lonk]

Is this the official title?  Where did you see this?

There was some "leaked" information. It was a description of the first trailer which says that is the title along with detailed description of the first trailer. Not sure if the info it's true but as of right now that is the rumored title for Avengers 4. Whether it's true or not, this link has spoilers. You've been warned.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.hindustantimes.com/hollywood/detailed-avengers-4-trailer-description-leaked-title-revealed-time-travel-teased/story-K6vDrhFjytavLAJ1im3uNO_amp.html

[bosk1]

It is not confirmed as "leaked."  We do not know the source.  It could be completely made up.  So, yes, it is at present only a "rumor."

[Adami]

Correct.

In fact, the real title was recently leaked.

Avengers 4: Captain American 4: Iron Man 4: Thor 4: Black Panther 2: Ant-Man and the Wasp and Spiderman and the other people who don't have solo movies.


It's a long title, so I wouldn't be surprised if they shorten it a bit.

[The Walrus]

I think Annihilation is a DOPE title and I really want it to be true. Therefore, it's not gonna happen. But boy does it sound awesome. 

[Adami]

I think Annihilation is a DOPE title and I really want it to be true. Therefore, it's not gonna happen. But boy does it sound awesome. 

Like I said before, I can't see the actual Annihilation storyline working in a movie.

I actually really love the story from the comics, especially considering that's how the modern Guardians even got together. But you need SO many working pieces for that storyline, plus it's super dark. The movies would likely just introduce an Ultron like Annihulus and a huge CGI army and...I dunno....that'd be lame.

[The Walrus]

I think Annihilation is a DOPE title and I really want it to be true. Therefore, it's not gonna happen. But boy does it sound awesome. 

Like I said before, I can't see the actual Annihilation storyline working in a movie.

I actually really love the story from the comics, especially considering that's how the modern Guardians even got together. But you need SO many working pieces for that storyline, plus it's super dark. The movies would likely just introduce an Ultron like Annihulus and a huge CGI army and...I dunno....that'd be lame.

Oh I'm in full agreement re: the storyline. I just think the title is awesome 'cause annihilation is a sweet word, plus I don't think they'd actually go with that storyline anyway. I hope they take an unexpected route, whatever they choose to do in this film/the future, and surprise everyone. Pick something out of left field but make sure it's gonna work. That's always better than just going for what is cool and half-assing it or worse putting effort into it only for it to flop.

[Adami]

I agree they should go left field. They should also do that with the title.

Avengers: Turd in the Wind.

[The Walrus]

 

[jingle.boy]

I agree they should go left field. They should also do that with the title.

Avengers: Turd in the Wind.

Still better than DC.

[King Postwhore]

I agree they should go left field. They should also do that with the title.

Avengers: Turd in the Wind.

And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a turd in the wind.. 

[lonestar]

Hmmmm, day off and a new season of Daredevil. I really don't see much getting done today 

[Adami]

Hmmmm, day off and a new season of Daredevil. I really don't see much getting done today 

Ohhh. Someone asked me what I was going to do this weekend. Now I have an answer.

[Samsara]

Hmmmm, day off and a new season of Daredevil. I really don't see much getting done today 

Tonight, Saturday, and Sunday - Timberwolves game, finish Iron Fist Season 2, Timberwolves game, plow through new Daredevil season. Weekend is done already. 

[lonestar]

Well I fortunately have Sunday and Tuesday off, so I think I'm going to segment it and try to finish up on Tuesday.






Or I'll just skip life and plow through it all today.

[Adami]

Well I fortunately have Sunday and Tuesday off, so I think I'm going to segment it and try to finish up on Tuesday.






Or I'll just skip life and plow through it all today.

See, I don't like that. Shows like Daredevil are dense. Going through it all in one day is like scarfing down a 60 dollar steak. Take your time, savor the flavor, enjoy it slowly.

Yes, I have no idea about steak, but you get my point.

[bosk1]

  This steak/Daredevil lover agrees.

[Adami]

Yea. It's not going anywhere. It's not gonna get cold. It's clearly no longer urgent conversation material like Game of Thrones or even Westworld. No hurry.

[lonestar]

Whatever. There's nothing in the world that I enjoyed that I also didn't devour addictively. Drugs, booze, food, Marvel. I take them all to the extreme.

[Adami]

Whatever. There's nothing in the world that I enjoyed that I also didn't devour addictively. Drugs, booze, food, Marvel. I take them all to the extreme.

[jingle.boy]

Whatever. There's nothing in the world that I enjoyed that I also didn't devour addictively. Drugs, booze, food, Marvel. I take them all to the extreme.

You forgot ...

[lonestar]

Shhh....



Anyhoo, rolling into episode 6, and though it's a mite slow, it's definitely high caliber stuff. I think shit will hit the fan, and hard in a few episodes, all the pieces are in place.