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DT to play the whole I&W in full next year!

Started by MirrorMask, November 15, 2016, 02:39:31 AM

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King Postwhore

Quote from: MirrorMask on November 15, 2016, 07:10:27 AM
Time to brag: I could go all snob on this and say "Eh, been there, done that"  ;D

I actually witnessed DT perform I&W in its entirety, back in 2007 for the 15th anniversary. It was the Gods of Metal festival, DT were second on the bill behind Heaven and Hell, and they started the show with Pull Me Under; nothing strange there, it was a festival, probably a best of setlist, it's only normal to start with your most famous song.

Then James after the song explained the anniversary, and the moment he announced they were performing the whole album, well, do I need to tell you the reaction of the crowd?  ;D

And for the record - he totally nailed the high note in Learning to Live  :metal

It will be 24 years since I saw them play every song in May of 1993 in Warwick R.I.  I would love to see them play it in order.
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Dublagent66

Definitely an album that should be played in its entirety.

Prog Snob

Quote from: MirrorMask on November 15, 2016, 10:48:16 AM
It would be cool to have Don't Look Past Me thrown in, but the only guy who probably even remembers the song exists is not in the band since 2010.

A Change of Seasons as encore would be the icing on the cake  :metal I wonder if they will start or finish with Images and Words, maybe for James' voice it would be better to play it right away rather than having it in the second set.

They should throw in a couple of other songs from that era, too, like the ones you mentioned, like TLF.

changing_seasons

This sounds amazing! Can James really sing all of I&W though?

Architeuthis

Quote from: changing_seasons on November 15, 2016, 12:24:13 PM
This sounds amazing! Can James really sing all of I&W though?
If he can sing all of TA, he can sing all of I&W...

Aythesryche

This is awesome. I have no idea where I'll be in Europe when these shows come around, but I will go to the closest one I'm in proximity to. If that ones sold out, I'll go to the next closest one. If not that one, then, then...

MirrorMask

They come to my hometown on a saturday. Really, the only way this can get even better is if they offer me the ticket for free  ;D


gzarruk

Looks like the time for my 1st post on the forum has come. I've been following the threads for a while, but never decided to post untill now.


Don't know if any of you guys saw this, but Mangini tweeted about transcribing two monster songs for the 2017 tour, and I'm pretty sure that "monster" refers to long/epic songs. I first thought about ACOS and/or Octavarium, but now they've confirmed the IAW tour, i'm almost sure they'll play ACOS.


I'll leave the link to his tweet here: https://twitter.com/ManginiMike/status/798421746638618624

Dream Team

JLB is probably gonna feel pressured to sing the original notes. Hope common sense takes over, hate to see him injure his vocal cords again.

Dublagent66

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 15, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: changing_seasons on November 15, 2016, 12:24:13 PM
This sounds amazing! Can James really sing all of I&W though?
If he can sing all of TA, he can sing all of I&W...

Not necessarily.  I think he meant that I&W words has more higher range notes than TA.  JLB has toned down his range quite a bit lately.

Architeuthis

Quote from: Dublagent66 on November 15, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on November 15, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: changing_seasons on November 15, 2016, 12:24:13 PM
This sounds amazing! Can James really sing all of I&W though?
If he can sing all of TA, he can sing all of I&W...

Not necessarily.  I think he meant that I&W words has more higher range notes than TA.  JLB has toned down his range quite a bit lately.
There some moments on TA that have very high range notes. That whole album is like a vocal marathon, it's amazing JLB pulls it off. Images and words ain't no walk in the park either. :metal

ResultsMayVary

Holy fuck, this better be coming to the US at some point next year.

chrisbDTM

Please come to the US. I'm skipping this current astonishing run but I'd like to see them play other stuff especially all I&W


Also I'm curious to see how JLB holds up. 2:47ish "pensive fear" section of take the time is gonna be difficult

KevShmev

Very smart business move. They have to be aware of the mixed reaction to TA, especially with ticket sales not that great overall lately, so instead of taking time off and then doing the next album, in which some of those fans could slowly slip away from them, they are doing this, which will get a lot of those fans back into the fold right away.  Very smart.

Jester

I guess if they are going to play an album in its entirety, that'd be the one to pick.

TBH, their catalog is so large now that it would be very hard for them to put together a set I wouldn't enjoy.  I've basically seen this already, so I'd imagine this is more of a treat for the fans that weren't old enough to see them in the early 90s.

TAC

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Darkstarshades

Again, it's spoiled European fans, just like in 2015 :(

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 15, 2016, 01:49:28 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on November 15, 2016, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on November 15, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: changing_seasons on November 15, 2016, 12:24:13 PM
This sounds amazing! Can James really sing all of I&W though?
If he can sing all of TA, he can sing all of I&W...

Not necessarily.  I think he meant that I&W words has more higher range notes than TA.  JLB has toned down his range quite a bit lately.
There some moments on TA that have very high range notes. That whole album is like a vocal marathon, it's amazing JLB pulls it off. Images and words ain't no walk in the park either. :metal

TA is no comparison vocally to IaW, and that's not meant as a dig at TA's vocals.

Darkstarshades

There are some notes in TA which are higher than most in I&W.

But I&W is, on average, higher than TA, still, TA has waay much more singing time.

BlobVanDam

#55
TA occasionally goes higher than the majority of IaW? I'd say that supports IaW being the tougher.
And not only is IaW on average higher, but the phrasing is tougher too. On top of the extra effort of singing higher, it also requires even more endurance on top of that to sing longer passages with more held notes. TA does have a higher percentage of singing in each song, but that should be relatively straightforward for a skilled vocalist like JLB with his trained technique. It's singing in his current natural range with more considerate phrasing.

I agree both albums present their challenges, but TA was written with present day JLB's strengths and abilities in mind. IaW was not. I can't wait to hear how he pulls it off.

Mosh

Not sure how that is even up for debate. JLB in 1992 was much younger and could hit higher notes more consistently. He would be the first one to tell you that. The Astonishing was an impressive vocal performance but lets not get crazy here.

Ben_Jamin


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Ben_Jamin

Quote from: Adami on November 15, 2016, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Ben_Jamin on November 15, 2016, 10:17:06 PM
James was on fire tonight.

He pulled a Hetfield? Hope he's okay.

Haha...He killed it on vocals. He even forgot the lyrics to Last Farewell, which was OK.

Plasmastrike

That's pretty exciting news!!! If this tour finds its way to the usa, i'll definitely get some friends together and go. It would be really cool to me if they played without the click track or whatever for this tour. A guy can dream right?

MirrorMask

Quote from: KevShmev on November 15, 2016, 05:07:42 PM
Very smart business move. They have to be aware of the mixed reaction to TA, especially with ticket sales not that great overall lately, so instead of taking time off and then doing the next album, in which some of those fans could slowly slip away from them, they are doing this, which will get a lot of those fans back into the fold right away.  Very smart.

Yeah, the thought crossed my mind as well... probably it was in the planning all along but it almost feel like "You didn't like The Astonishing as the entirety of the show? ok, fine, we give you our classic album in full, happy now?"

Architeuthis

Quote from: MirrorMask on November 16, 2016, 12:06:22 AM
Quote from: KevShmev on November 15, 2016, 05:07:42 PM
Very smart business move. They have to be aware of the mixed reaction to TA, especially with ticket sales not that great overall lately, so instead of taking time off and then doing the next album, in which some of those fans could slowly slip away from them, they are doing this, which will get a lot of those fans back into the fold right away.  Very smart.

Yeah, the thought crossed my mind as well... probably it was in the planning all along but it almost feel like "You didn't like The Astonishing as the entirety of the show? ok, fine, we give you our classic album in full, happy now?"
:lol.         Everything is never enough!   
I doubt that's the case, but a funny possibility. I'm sure they are itching to have some fun and play some stuff off their other albums, and Rock!  Smart business move too.

Ben_Jamin


Fritzinger

Do you guys think they'll do Another Day in a stripped down version so James could sing certain passages an octave lower?

Also, I hope they play the Chaos In Motion Version of Surrounded ;) But I think all of that jamming/making songs longer stuff was Portnoy's thing.

wolfking

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 15, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
Quote from: changing_seasons on November 15, 2016, 12:24:13 PM
This sounds amazing! Can James really sing all of I&W though?
If he can sing all of TA, he can sing all of I&W...

I don't quite get this.  One is almost 25 years older than the other for starters.

ariich

This would be more exciting if they hadn't already done it for the 15th anniversary.

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Thematt202

Meh.  I'm gutted that there's not gonna be a proper UK tour for The Astonishing.  Very sad that I'll probably never get to experience the show live.

Lynxo

Quote from: ariich on November 16, 2016, 04:21:13 AM
This would be more exciting if they hadn't already done it for the 15th anniversary.
Yeah, that's what's confusing to me. How often are they going to celebrate the same album?

...having said that, I might be interested in going. :lol As someone already said, this is a really smart business move. I was so disappointed in TA that I thought I would skip them the next tour but upon hearing this, I was interested again.

Ad134

Quote from: Thematt202 on November 16, 2016, 04:29:55 AM
Meh.  I'm gutted that there's not gonna be a proper UK tour for The Astonishing.  Very sad that I'll probably never get to experience the show live.

Huh? The first show of the tour was London!