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Do you put the shopping carts back in the corral?

Started by The Walrus, November 03, 2017, 07:59:45 AM

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Ruba

I'm waiting for 2024 election with Katt at pro-corral party with Tim running against him. :corn

Adami

So, what is a shopping cart that is not meant to carry an item?

Philosophically speaking, are the objects we are (supposedly) returning to the corrals even shopping carts in that moment? Shopping carts are designed to carry items for us, items that we do not wish to or cannot carry our selves. But after that function is served, and before another takes them, they do not serve that purpose anymore. So maybe one problem is that we cannot put a shopping cart back in the corral if it is no longer, functionally, a shopping cart?

So this is mostly a philosophical problem, not one of laziness.

However.....after its use, a shopping cart, much like what we initially put in them, becomes an object we cannot or choose not to carry with us.

So I think the obvious solution is a much LARGER shopping cart to put our shopping carts in. They, then, become functional shopping carts and we can justly put them back in the coral.

You all in?
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The Walrus

Quote from: Ruba on May 28, 2019, 02:35:57 PM
I'm waiting for 2024 election with Katt at pro-corral party with Tim running against him. :corn

see this is a good reply and not dragging it out further

TAC

Quote from: Ruba on May 28, 2019, 02:35:57 PM
I'm waiting for 2024 election with Katt at pro-corral party with Tim running against him. :corn

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

eric42434224

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
So, what is a shopping cart that is not meant to carry an item?

Philosophically speaking, are the objects we are (supposedly) returning to the corrals even shopping carts in that moment? Shopping carts are designed to carry items for us, items that we do not wish to or cannot carry our selves. But after that function is served, and before another takes them, they do not serve that purpose anymore. So maybe one problem is that we cannot put a shopping cart back in the corral if it is no longer, functionally, a shopping cart?

So this is mostly a philosophical problem, not one of laziness.

However.....after its use, a shopping cart, much like what we initially put in them, becomes an object we cannot or choose not to carry with us.

So I think the obvious solution is a much LARGER shopping cart to put our shopping carts in. They, then, become functional shopping carts and we can justly put them back in the coral.

You all in?

No, because the shopping cart isn't something you shopped for.... so you need a shopping cart to put the bigger shopping cart in....and so on....and so on....until you find the prime mover container....which cant be a cart....it must be the corral!!!!!!
Therefore you must put carts in the corral, and the corral is.....god?
Did I just have a stroke?

Adami

But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.
www. fanticide.bandcamp . com

eric42434224

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:50:03 PM
But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.

Except we didnt SHOP for the cart we are putting in the bigger cart.  So it is not being used as a SHOPPING cart.  It is being used as a wheelbarrow of sorts.  Certainly TAC can return a WHEELBARROW to the corral, yes?

cramx3


pg1067

Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 28, 2019, 01:31:13 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on May 24, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 23, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
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Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 22, 2019, 01:12:49 PM
Interesting how your selective reasoning must be convenient.  I already explained why the corrals are there.  Of course it's their job, but management doesn't want their employees spending all their time in the parking lot.  Time is money.  I also said it's a safety liability as well.  How is that even remotely comparable to reviewing contracts?  Apples and oranges dude.

Err....  I get that having customers do some or all of the work of getting carts back to store is good for the stores, but that's neither here nor there as far as I'm concerned.  As far as it being "a safety liability," I suppose, but I'm fairly confident that the incidence of injury suffered by retail employees while retrieving carts is so low as not to be worth considering.

Looks like you're still seeing orange apples.  I suppose you can continue to argue whatever point you're trying to make, but the simplest concept still remains.  If someone lets you use their shopping cart, the least you can do is stick in their corral.  :p 
:lol :rollin :lol

No, the least I can do is leave it in their parking lot in a location that will neither pose a reasonable risk of damage to others' cars or inhibit others from parking, which is exactly what I do.

The corrals are one of those locations you just described.  You still haven't provided a reasonable argument for not using them.

I agree with the first sentence:  the corral is one of many options that serve the purposes I mentioned.  As for the second, I've explained it many times, but our definitions of "reasonable" obviously differ.  With that said, you haven't offered a "reasonable" explanation for preferring the corral to other locations that don't inhibit parking or pose a reasonable risk of damage.  Absent such an explanation, I'll keep making my own decisions about which location to use.

Adami

Quote from: eric42434224 on May 28, 2019, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:50:03 PM
But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.

Except we didnt SHOP for the cart we are putting in the bigger cart.  So it is not being used as a SHOPPING cart.  It is being used as a wheelbarrow.  Certainly TAC can return a WHEELBARROW to the corral yes?

Listen, I've recently become my own god, and clearly you aren't there  yet. And as a god, I only speak to other gods (sup hef?) so once you put the shopping cart back and ascend to godhood, we can chat.
www. fanticide.bandcamp . com

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

eric42434224

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: eric42434224 on May 28, 2019, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:50:03 PM
But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.

Except we didnt SHOP for the cart we are putting in the bigger cart.  So it is not being used as a SHOPPING cart.  It is being used as a wheelbarrow.  Certainly TAC can return a WHEELBARROW to the corral yes?

Listen, I've recently become my own god, and clearly you aren't there  yet. And as a god, I only speak to other gods (sup hef?) so once you put the shopping cart back and ascend to godhood, we can chat.

You do realize that I argue FOR corrals, yes?  So yeah.  Wassup.

TAC

Quote from: eric42434224 on May 28, 2019, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:50:03 PM
But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.

Except we didnt SHOP for the cart we are putting in the bigger cart.  So it is not being used as a SHOPPING cart.  It is being used as a wheelbarrow of sorts.  Certainly TAC can return a WHEELBARROW to the corral, yes?

I confused.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

The Walrus

I'm going to melt down every shopping cart in existence

King Postwhore

Quote from: Kattelox on May 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
I'm going to melt down every shopping cart in existence

And make a throne.


AMIRITE?!
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

eric42434224

Quote from: TAC on May 28, 2019, 02:55:50 PM
Quote from: eric42434224 on May 28, 2019, 02:51:21 PM
Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:50:03 PM
But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.

Except we didnt SHOP for the cart we are putting in the bigger cart.  So it is not being used as a SHOPPING cart.  It is being used as a wheelbarrow of sorts.  Certainly TAC can return a WHEELBARROW to the corral, yes?

I confused.

Well you do fight the Cart Wars against the evil Grocery Store so........

Dublagent66

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
So, what is a shopping cart that is not meant to carry an item?

Philosophically speaking, are the objects we are (supposedly) returning to the corrals even shopping carts in that moment? Shopping carts are designed to carry items for us, items that we do not wish to or cannot carry our selves. But after that function is served, and before another takes them, they do not serve that purpose anymore. So maybe one problem is that we cannot put a shopping cart back in the corral if it is no longer, functionally, a shopping cart?

So this is mostly a philosophical problem, not one of laziness.

However.....after its use, a shopping cart, much like what we initially put in them, becomes an object we cannot or choose not to carry with us.

So I think the obvious solution is a much LARGER shopping cart to put our shopping carts in. They, then, become functional shopping carts and we can justly put them back in the coral.

You all in?

:lol  That's pretty good material for a radio show but I don't see a philosophical problem.  Is a car still a car without a driver in it?  Absolutely.  A shopping cart is a shopping cart is a shopping cart.  I think the same thing goes for corrals too even though there are probably no shopping carts in them.   :rollin



Quote from: TAC on May 28, 2019, 02:20:06 PM
Quote from: eric42434224 on May 28, 2019, 02:04:48 PM
Fake Pic?  LOL
Next thing you know, we will be hearing that these threads are "Witch Hunts", and Shopping Cart Corrals are the "Enemy of the People". SAD!

:lol

Pretty sure the Russians colluded to put the carts there.

Or...it could be a Cuban shopping cart crisis.   :rollin :rollin

The Walrus

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: Kattelox on May 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
I'm going to melt down every shopping cart in existence

And make a throne.


AMIRITE?!

Let's see if TAC gets that reference!

"Do you know what the Realm is? It's the thousand wheels of Katt's enemies."

Ruba

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
So, what is a shopping cart that is not meant to carry an item?

Philosophically speaking, are the objects we are (supposedly) returning to the corrals even shopping carts in that moment? Shopping carts are designed to carry items for us, items that we do not wish to or cannot carry our selves. But after that function is served, and before another takes them, they do not serve that purpose anymore. So maybe one problem is that we cannot put a shopping cart back in the corral if it is no longer, functionally, a shopping cart?

So this is mostly a philosophical problem, not one of laziness.

However.....after its use, a shopping cart, much like what we initially put in them, becomes an object we cannot or choose not to carry with us.

So I think the obvious solution is a much LARGER shopping cart to put our shopping carts in. They, then, become functional shopping carts and we can justly put them back in the coral.

You all in?

...

This is why I like and hate philosophy.

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:50:03 PM
But if we use the bigger cart to put them in the corral, then that IS a cart being used as a cart, thus moving around the philosophical dilemma that TAC wasn't sure how to articulate. So the prime mover becomes us, and we become our own gods.

Since I like sigging you and updating my sig has been long overdue, here it is.

TheCountOfMinnesota

The following things are philosophically akin to just leaving your empty cart loose in a parking lot and driving away:

-taking a huge dump in your friend's toilet and not flushing
-letting your dog crap in the park and not picking it up
-crapping in your pants and just shoving those pants down deep into the hamper, hoping that your wife doesn't notice when she does the laundry...

...I, uh... have to go to the bathroom.  BRB, but I think we can all agree that it's a shitty thing leave your cart floating in the lot without flushing putting it back

Adami

Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 28, 2019, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
So, what is a shopping cart that is not meant to carry an item?

Philosophically speaking, are the objects we are (supposedly) returning to the corrals even shopping carts in that moment? Shopping carts are designed to carry items for us, items that we do not wish to or cannot carry our selves. But after that function is served, and before another takes them, they do not serve that purpose anymore. So maybe one problem is that we cannot put a shopping cart back in the corral if it is no longer, functionally, a shopping cart?

So this is mostly a philosophical problem, not one of laziness.

However.....after its use, a shopping cart, much like what we initially put in them, becomes an object we cannot or choose not to carry with us.

So I think the obvious solution is a much LARGER shopping cart to put our shopping carts in. They, then, become functional shopping carts and we can justly put them back in the coral.

You all in?

:lol  That's pretty good material for a radio show but I don't see a philosophical problem.  Is a car still a car without a driver in it?  Absolutely.  A shopping cart is a shopping cart is a shopping cart.  I think the same thing goes for corrals too even though there are probably no shopping carts in them.   :rollin



Well, as a recently ascended god, i can say that you're wrong. And as a mere mortal, you're not allowed to question me.

Now, go return the carts and maybe you can become a god too.


But it does beg a question, if a cart is not a cart between uses (which I, as a god, have proclaimed) is a corral still a corral without carts?

So how can TAC return a cart to a corral if neither exist?

EXACTLY!
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TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

King Postwhore

Quote from: Kattelox on May 28, 2019, 02:59:09 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 02:57:53 PM
Quote from: Kattelox on May 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
I'm going to melt down every shopping cart in existence

And make a throne.


AMIRITE?!

Let's see if TAC gets that reference!

"Do you know what the Realm is? It's the thousand wheels of Katt's enemies."

Tim is the North.  The 6 Realms put the carts in the coral.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

bosk1

Quote from: TheCountOfMinnesota on May 28, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
The following things are philosophically akin to just leaving your empty cart loose in a parking lot and driving away:

-taking a huge dump in your friend's toilet and not flushing
-letting your dog crap in the park and not picking it up
-crapping in your pants and just shoving those pants down deep into the hamper, hoping that your wife doesn't notice when she does the laundry...

Actually, no, I don't see what those things have in common with each other. 

King Postwhore

Taking a crap in a cart and not putting it in the coral?
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

TAC

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Taking a crap in a cart and not putting it in the coral?

Um..that's a bit too real for this thread.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

cramx3

How about crapping in one of those coin lock things to get a cart

bosk1

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Taking a crap in a cart and not putting it in the coral?

You've obviously spent time in Northern California cities recently.

eric42434224

Quote from: bosk1 on May 28, 2019, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: TheCountOfMinnesota on May 28, 2019, 03:01:06 PM
The following things are philosophically akin to just leaving your empty cart loose in a parking lot and driving away:

-taking a huge dump in your friend's toilet and not flushing
-letting your dog crap in the park and not picking it up
-crapping in your pants and just shoving those pants down deep into the hamper, hoping that your wife doesn't notice when she does the laundry...

Actually, no, I don't see what those things have in common with each other.

I Knight Thee...... Sir Buzz Killington

King Postwhore

Quote from: bosk1 on May 28, 2019, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Taking a crap in a cart and not putting it in the coral?

You've obviously spent time in Northern California cities recently.

I think we all have those areas unfortunately.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Dublagent66

Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 03:01:18 PM
Quote from: Dublagent66 on May 28, 2019, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: Adami on May 28, 2019, 02:36:12 PM
So, what is a shopping cart that is not meant to carry an item?

Philosophically speaking, are the objects we are (supposedly) returning to the corrals even shopping carts in that moment? Shopping carts are designed to carry items for us, items that we do not wish to or cannot carry our selves. But after that function is served, and before another takes them, they do not serve that purpose anymore. So maybe one problem is that we cannot put a shopping cart back in the corral if it is no longer, functionally, a shopping cart?

So this is mostly a philosophical problem, not one of laziness.

However.....after its use, a shopping cart, much like what we initially put in them, becomes an object we cannot or choose not to carry with us.

So I think the obvious solution is a much LARGER shopping cart to put our shopping carts in. They, then, become functional shopping carts and we can justly put them back in the coral.

You all in?

:lol  That's pretty good material for a radio show but I don't see a philosophical problem.  Is a car still a car without a driver in it?  Absolutely.  A shopping cart is a shopping cart is a shopping cart.  I think the same thing goes for corrals too even though there are probably no shopping carts in them.   :rollin


Now, go return the carts and maybe you can become a god too.

Is that all I needed to do to become a god?  I wish someone would've told me sooner.  I guess before Abraham returned carts, I am. :p  :lol

TAC

Quote from: bosk1 on May 28, 2019, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Taking a crap in a cart and not putting it in the coral?

You've obviously spent time in Northern California cities recently.

Bosk, I kid you not..when we were out there last summer, we went to downtown San Jose. We were at the city hall plaza (which is really cool, btw), and we literally watched a woman open one of those boxes where they drop community newspapers and take a dump.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

pg1067

Quote from: TAC on May 28, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on May 28, 2019, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on May 28, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Taking a crap in a cart and not putting it in the coral?

You've obviously spent time in Northern California cities recently.

Bosk, I kid you not..when we were out there last summer, we went to downtown San Jose. We were at the city hall plaza (which is really cool, btw), and we literally watched a woman open one of those boxes where they drop community newspapers and take a dump.

FWIW, San Jose is not Northern California.  The point is otherwise valid.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol