Richard Chycki says he's currently mixing a DT live album **DO NOT POST LINKS**

[gzarruk]

I need it. I. NEED. IT.

[CB]

I'm just glad that DT is loved so much in Japan that this (quite historical) show has been filmed for TV. Just got the Blueray, amazing! The camera guys did a great job.

How the fracas are you getting a BlueRay of this???

I got it from discjapan.com

[Anguyen92]

^^ I've done some digging with that site you provided, and I found this.

https://www.discjapan.com/product/dream-theater-live-at-budokan-2017-1blu-ray-rnon-label/

That stated, the price seems a bit steep for me for a DVD/Bluray (it's around $40.00) and I don't know if I can trust the source of it.  I'll just wait until there is an official release and I can get it at Best Buy without any issues.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

^^ I've done some digging with that site you provided, and I found this.

https://www.discjapan.com/product/dream-theater-live-at-budokan-2017-1blu-ray-rnon-label/

That stated, the price seems a bit steep for me for a DVD/Bluray (it's around $40.00) and I don't know if I can trust the source of it.  I'll just wait until there is an official release and I can get it at Best Buy without any issues.

Well,  I think it's kinda trustworthy if CB already got his copy, but I have no idea how legal is this lol. I know for a fact that some "labels" sell unofficial DT bootlegs in some places and that's wrong. I'd love some clarification with this.

[bosk1]

^^ I've done some digging with that site you provided, and I found this.

https://www.discjapan.com/product/dream-theater-live-at-budokan-2017-1blu-ray-rnon-label/

That stated, the price seems a bit steep for me for a DVD/Bluray (it's around $40.00) and I don't know if I can trust the source of it.  I'll just wait until there is an official release and I can get it at Best Buy without any issues.

Last word I got is that there will NOT be an official release. 

[gzarruk]

^^ I've done some digging with that site you provided, and I found this.

https://www.discjapan.com/product/dream-theater-live-at-budokan-2017-1blu-ray-rnon-label/

That stated, the price seems a bit steep for me for a DVD/Bluray (it's around $40.00) and I don't know if I can trust the source of it.  I'll just wait until there is an official release and I can get it at Best Buy without any issues.

Last word I got is that there will NOT be an official release.

That's what I thought as well. None of the DT members have said anything that hinted an official release. Right now, I'm just hoping it finds it's way to Youtube soon.

[DanLore]

I'm just glad that DT is loved so much in Japan that this (quite historical) show has been filmed for TV. Just got the Blueray, amazing! The camera guys did a great job.

How the fracas are you getting a BlueRay of this???

I got it from discjapan.com

How is the audio?  Soundboard?

[CB]

I'm just glad that DT is loved so much in Japan that this (quite historical) show has been filmed for TV. Just got the Blueray, amazing! The camera guys did a great job.

How the fracas are you getting a BlueRay of this???

I got it from discjapan.com

How is the audio?  Soundboard?

I'm not an expert on that, and there's nothing about it on the BlueRay case (only "Linear PCM Stereo") ... it's a recording of the TV broadcast, the audio sounds good to me, professional.

[DanLore]

So, if you compared it to the audio on the original Live At Budokan release, is it comparable to that?

I may be looking to get this, but I'd like your opinion.  Thanks.

DanLore

[CB]

So, if you compared it to the audio on the original Live At Budokan release, is it comparable to that?

I may be looking to get this, but I'd like your opinion.  Thanks.

DanLore

To my (no musician) ears the audio is comparable, perhaps a bit superior, crisper, cleaner on the original Budokan release. I have to hear both, one after the other, to be sure, didn't have the time for that yet. Considering that certainly a lot more work and money has been invested in the original release than in the new Budokan (that was filmed by a small camera crew, as it seems for TV only), the result of the new one is quite amazing. I'm just happy I have this to remember the three I&W shows I saw last year.

BTW, they cut out all the talking between songs. Makes the show a lot shorter!

[cramx3]

Without having heard the new concert, I would say it won't compare to the Budokan DVD as in this new concert seems to be a rip of the TV broadcast so you are going to see a decrease in quality right off the bat.  Then the other part is that it's only stereo audio, where as Budokan had surround sound.  However, with Chycki doing the mix, I do think it's possible you have a solid mix on this release, I just wouldn't expect it to compare to any of the official release DVDs.  I could be wrong, but that would be my expectation.  Personally, I wouldn't buy this as it seems to be a bootleg.  I'd love an official release though, or at worst case for this to show up on youtube.

[Architeuthis]

I'd prefer it on stereo anyways, over surround sound for concert dvds. Stereo just works better for music, especially rock bands. I've always watched all my concert blurays/dvd's on stereo only. It sounds so much better.  Movies are for surround sound..

[The Curious Orange]

I wonder why Live albums have fallen out of favour with the band of late??

[Cyclopssss]

Almost at the point of being 'done' with live releases by DT. Spent a lof of money on LALP, which sounded abysmal to me. Looked great, sounded bad.
Breaking the fourth wall was a lot better, soundwise. Had high hopes for a TA release, which never came.  This just sound like a rehash to me.

[cramx3]

I wonder why Live albums have fallen out of favour with the band of late??

I think it's a trend in music since youtube and live streams have become popular that selling DVDs doesn't make as much sense anymore. 

[Architeuthis]

Almost at the point of being 'done' with live releases by DT. Spent a lof of money on LALP, which sounded abysmal to me. Looked great, sounded bad.
Breaking the fourth wall was a lot better, soundwise. Had high hopes for a TA release, which never came.  This just sound like a rehash to me.

Interesting. I think LALP sounds better than BTFW.  Nightwish's Vehicle of Spirit (especially The Tampere show) DVD sounds much better than both DT releases. DT needs to get whoever mixed for NW to do their live releases imo. 

[mikeyd23]

I wonder why Live albums have fallen out of favour with the band of late??

I think it's a trend in music since youtube and live streams have become popular that selling DVDs doesn't make as much sense anymore.

Very true. Not to mention, live albums haven't really fallen out of favor with the band. The only proper tour in support of new material they haven't done an official live album for (post-MP) is TA. They did Luna Park and Breaking the Fourth Wall for the tours before that. It's not like they aren't doing live albums any more.

[devieira73]

^^ I've done some digging with that site you provided, and I found this.

https://www.discjapan.com/product/dream-theater-live-at-budokan-2017-1blu-ray-rnon-label/

That stated, the price seems a bit steep for me for a DVD/Bluray (it's around $40.00) and I don't know if I can trust the source of it.  I'll just wait until there is an official release and I can get it at Best Buy without any issues.

Last word I got is that there will NOT be an official release.

Bosk, did you have this info directly from the band recently? Since the final product is already done, it seems a lost opportunity to make at least some money out of it, right?

[bosk1]

^^ I've done some digging with that site you provided, and I found this.

https://www.discjapan.com/product/dream-theater-live-at-budokan-2017-1blu-ray-rnon-label/

That stated, the price seems a bit steep for me for a DVD/Bluray (it's around $40.00) and I don't know if I can trust the source of it.  I'll just wait until there is an official release and I can get it at Best Buy without any issues.

Last word I got is that there will NOT be an official release.

Bosk, did you have this info directly from the band recently? Since the final product is already done, it seems a lost opportunity to make at least some money out of it, right?

I asked management about a week ago and was told that there wasn't going to be an official release, but that they were checking on something and would get back to me.  I haven't heard anything and am not sure what that means. 

[TAC]

So who paid Chycki to mix it? Certainly not the Japanese broadcast team, right?

[devieira73]

Thanks, Bosk. Interesting... maybe this means that they won't release anything or they are waiting to properly make an announcement of the release, with some marketing etc. I guess 50% to both.

[gzarruk]

So who paid Chycki to mix it? Certainly not the Japanese broadcast team, right?

Good point, but IIRC, he also mixed the Loud Park 2014 show (or just a few songs from it) for a TV broadcast and they never released it officially.

[devieira73]

Maybe the band payed him to mix these shows just to have control of audio quality of them?

[cramx3]

I have no idea how this works, but my guess is the whoever owned the rights to broadcast the concert paid the band/label to do so exclusively as a way to get people to watch their channel/show not buy the DVD.  And part of that deal was to get someone to mix the audio and it only makes sense to get the guy who works with DT currently.  That is assuming there isn't some announcement of an official release coming.

[OpenYourEyes311]

Bosk, have you heard any updates regarding Official Bootleg/Ytsejam Record-type releases? Seems to me, this seems like the perfect outlet to get recordings (audio and/or video) of the last few tours out, especially since they don't seem to have plans on an official "DVD recording." They could put out the Budokan 2017 show on Blu-ray/CD, an Astonishing 2016 show on CD, and a 30th Anniversary Tour 2015 show out on DVD/CD/Blu-ray/whatever. I think die-hards, like me, would go bananas over the opportunity to own shows from these tours, and would rather have some sort of official release than a youtube video or bootleg from Japan.

[bosk1]

No, but I haven't asked anything about that in a LONG time (i.e., back in the Luna Park timeframe).  It's something that has been on my mind the last couple of years though.  If I have an opportunity, I'll ask JP about it this Saturday.  Thanks for reminding me.

[cramx3]

Speaking to JP this saturday? 

[bosk1]

Speaking to JP this saturday? 

Hopefully.  I don't know how busy he is on G3 tours.

[cramx3]

That sounds like a good time, enjoy. 

[Chino]

Speaking to JP this saturday? 

Hopefully.  I don't know how busy he is on G3 tours.

Tell him Chino says "sup?".

[bosk1]

Speaking to JP this saturday? 

Hopefully.  I don't know how busy he is on G3 tours.

Tell him Chino says "sup?".

I did last time I saw him.  He said to let him know if you needed tickets for a show.  He told me he could get you almost any seats you wanted.  I believe his exact words were, "Anywhere but the balcony."

[cramx3]

 

[Orbert]

Zing!

[geeeemo]

Speaking to JP this saturday? 

Hopefully.  I don't know how busy he is on G3 tours.

I will be there Saturday!!

[|KirK|]

Of course I'd like to see the Budokan show, but what I really wanted was a DVD of TA tour...
I hope at least for an audio recording...
Someone said that maybe one day we will have it like SDOIT on Score, but this is too long to include in a setlist with new stuff and other songs...