Coronavirus

[Adami]

If you ever seen any of these similar signs at frat houses, I think you would just take it as a joke and not extrapolate real thought to it.  Sure it's "anti-mask" and "pro eating ass" but taking it further than just a stupid college joke is really going too far.  Criticize the people for not following social distancing, but the sign is pure stupidity at it's finest for college students.

I'm not singling out the sign. If everyone there was wearing a mask, it'd have a different context. But it's the whole picture.

"college stupidity" causes COVID spreading, so I don't just brush it off. Sorry.

[cramx3]

If you ever seen any of these similar signs at frat houses, I think you would just take it as a joke and not extrapolate real thought to it.  Sure it's "anti-mask" and "pro eating ass" but taking it further than just a stupid college joke is really going too far.  Criticize the people for not following social distancing, but the sign is pure stupidity at it's finest for college students.

I'm not singling out the sign. If everyone there was wearing a mask, it'd have a different context. But it's the whole picture.

"college stupidity" causes COVID spreading, so I don't just brush it off. Sorry.

I'm not defending them, but drinking outside doesn't require a mask usually.  I mean, you can outdoor dine pretty much everywhere in the US and you don't need to wear a mask (how can you).  As I said before, this specific example of the kids outside drinking is not really an example of college stupidity IMO.  As I said before, it's the 50 kids partying in the basement that are the problem.

[jingle.boy]

If you ever seen any of these similar signs at frat houses, I think you would just take it as a joke and not extrapolate real thought to it.  Sure it's "anti-mask" and "pro eating ass" but taking it further than just a stupid college joke is really going too far.  Criticize the people for not following social distancing, but the sign is pure stupidity at it's finest for college students.

I'm not singling out the sign. If everyone there was wearing a mask, it'd have a different context. But it's the whole picture.

"college stupidity" causes COVID spreading, so I don't just brush it off. Sorry.

I think that's a fair takeaway here. While I agree wth Bill and Marc, the biggest point is the carelessness and attitude, as demonstrated in multiple facets of the picture. Yes, they may be doing some things right (as Tim mentions) but it's still irresponsible and dangerous - to them and others.

You wouldn't commend a drunk driver for wearing their seatbelt, doing the limit, staying in their lane, signalling properly, and stopping at 7 out of 8 lights ... if they T-boned someone at the 8th.

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Yeah, I think you could make a sign like that just to be a college asshole (and taken on its own it's pretty funny) and not a rabid anti-masker, but at the same time, unless you're pretty lax and callous about the entire situation (like the kind of person who would show up to this gathering in the first place), you wouldn't put it up either. And it's that kind of 'who cares, it's not that big of a deal' kind of attitude that gets us, maybe even more so than the rabid Covid-isn't-realers.

[Stadler]

Whoa, whoa.  I'm not at all saying "who cares, it's not that big a deal".  I put my kid on an airplane to go to college not a week ago.  I get it.   I'm just saying that it's not as easy as standing here and casting judgment like Solomon without some consideration.   I would prefer those kids have masks on.   No question.   I - as a dad - would prefer if those kids were home, sitting on their own couches, watching Big Bang Theory.   But there's a dose of reality - as well as human nature - here that cannot be avoided.   I think too much more is getting unrealistic to ask for, even if it's optimal. 

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

Not saying you were, I was talking about the ass-eater who made the sign.

[cramx3]

I should also clarify, I think ass eating is disgusting and maybe would rather put on a mask before my mouth ever went into someone's anus 

[Stadler]

But it's the latest thing!   

[Chino]

[jingle.boy]

I agree!  Yoga pants!!!

[hunnus2000]

Amen brutha

AaaaaaaaaMennnnnnn!

[Implode]

Dental dams. Stay safe, friends.

[Spiritus]

^^^  See I'm with you on all counts.  They ARE doing what has been recommended by some authorities; outside, distance.

And where there's a will there's a way; if you're really wanting to eat ass, a mask ought not stop you.

There's an underwear with a fly hole joke somewhere here, but I'm too exhausted to come up with one

[hefdaddy42]

I have a hard time calling kids fucking idiots.

Have you ever met any kids?

[Chino]

I have a hard time calling kids fucking idiots.

Have you ever met any kids?

When I was in college, I managed to fall off a 5th floor balcony while smoking a cigarette alone. I'd think there was something wrong with you if you didn't refer to me as a "fucking idiot".

[TAC]

I'd call you fucking lucky.

[gmillerdrake]

I have a hard time calling kids fucking idiots.

Have you ever met any kids?

When I was in college, I managed to fall off a 5th floor balcony while smoking a cigarette alone. I'd think there was something wrong with you if you didn't refer to me as a "fucking idiot".

I was bitten by a Western Diamondback Rattlesnake when I was stoned and drunk.......that I 'owned' as a pet and decided that it'd be a good idea to remove it from its secure enclosure to hold. Pretty sure that version of Gary was a "fucking idiot"

[jingle.boy]

We've all got our "holy fucknards I was an idiot" story. In fact, seems like a perfect idea for a thread unto itself!  I'd start it now, but I'm off to pickup jingle.son from work. If no one has done it by the time I'm back here (assuming I remember), I'll fire it up.

[Adami]

I've spent the last two years working with college students.

Calling them idiots ain't a stretch.

[Stadler]

We've all got our "holy fucknards I was an idiot" story. In fact, seems like a perfect idea for a thread unto itself!  I'd start it now, but I'm off to pickup jingle.son from work. If no one has done it by the time I'm back here (assuming I remember), I'll fire it up.

I guarantee you I'll have five of the first ten posts.   But to remain on topic here, that's part of the idea.  It's the one time you can sort push the boundaries on what is acceptable and what isn't.  Get that shit out of your system where the consequences are still real but are cushioned a bit.  I'm not talking about hardcore felony crime, but in terms of testing social norms.

[TAC]

Yes, college kids are idiot. I was an idiot.

I just resisted lashing out at the kids in THAT picture. What I saw there in and of itself didn't make them idiots, to me.

[Elite]

As someone who teaches high school kids, I agree with TAC in the sense that I have a hard time calling those idiots. They can be clumsy, messy or awkward, sure, but they're also still growing up.

College students on the other hand... yeah, they're idiots.

[The Walrus]

Even in my podunk little town, COVID has already hit the middle school, and an even smaller school in a neighboring town. Gee, who could have ever predicted this happening after you open schools? Insane.

[Dream Team]

Awesome this morning on Clay Travis' show, interviewing guy who has an article in the Wall Street Journal exposing Andrew Cuomo's complete mishandling of the pandemic, yet the media is so skewed in his favor he has a book coming out about how he "conquered" the virus  .

[Stadler]

Awesome this morning on Clay Travis' show, interviewing guy who has an article in the Wall Street Journal exposing Andrew Cuomo's complete mishandling of the pandemic, yet the media is so skewed in his favor he has a book coming out about how he "conquered" the virus  .

I need to read that, because living here in CT, I've sung the praises of Cuomo.  He did - from a perception point of view - everything he was supposed to do.  Open press conferences, candid responses, collaborative discussions (with Trump, with my governor, and with NJ's governor).   My governor - Ned Lamont, who I did NOT vote for (strenuously) but who has completely won me over - has been largely following Cuomo's lead and we've got some of the best numbers in the COUNTRY.   So while I have no dog in the Cuomo hunt, if it is in fact the case that he botched this, I think that casts a lot of the criticisms of Trump in a new light, because he was (supposedly) doing all the things Trump was supposed to.  That seems to tell me that this wasn't something that was going to be stopped or minimized by "leadership", but only by FULL cooperation between the disparate people that make up our society.  You don't need to be a Poly Sci major to know that that's not happening in this divisive, antagonistic society we live in, where our side is "morally right" and the other side are "deplorable/fascist idiots". 

[Chino]

Awesome this morning on Clay Travis' show, interviewing guy who has an article in the Wall Street Journal exposing Andrew Cuomo's complete mishandling of the pandemic, yet the media is so skewed in his favor he has a book coming out about how he "conquered" the virus  .

I need to read that, because living here in CT, I've sung the praises of Cuomo.  He did - from a perception point of view - everything he was supposed to do.  Open press conferences, candid responses, collaborative discussions (with Trump, with my governor, and with NJ's governor).   My governor - Ned Lamont, who I did NOT vote for (strenuously) but who has completely won me over - has been largely following Cuomo's lead and we've got some of the best numbers in the COUNTRY.   So while I have no dog in the Cuomo hunt, if it is in fact the case that he botched this, I think that casts a lot of the criticisms of Trump in a new light, because he was (supposedly) doing all the things Trump was supposed to.  That seems to tell me that this wasn't something that was going to be stopped or minimized by "leadership", but only by FULL cooperation between the disparate people that make up our society.  You don't need to be a Poly Sci major to know that that's not happening in this divisive, antagonistic society we live in, where our side is "morally right" and the other side are "deplorable/fascist idiots".

I think Lamont handled this as good as anyone could have asked for. We were right next to ground zero in the early days and still managed to get the lid on pretty quick. It's going to be interesting going into winter. There's going to be a lot of pressure from the food service industry to increase indoor seating capacity once people are no longer able to endure the cold weather while eating outside.

The guy who got interviewed, what examples did he give of Cuomo failing?

[orcus116]

I haven't seen the interview but I'm assuming he mentioned the nursing home debacle that resulted in a lot of deaths. Speaking as a New Yorker there are a lot of us that aren't a huge fan of how Cuomo is handling things especially since he handled the entire state as if it was all New York City and numbers showed that the vast majority of cases were centered in a very, very tiny cluster of the state area wise. The travel ban is comically bad and he's refusing to lift it even after the CDC recently retracted their 14 day quarantine edict. A lot of us think he was given too much power and are worried because there doesn't seem to be an expiration date on the expanded powers the state government gave him. It's hard to say if New York is in the position it's in currently because of actions taken or if we just got it first and it's sort of fizzling out now as a disease tends to do.

[bosk1]

Awesome this morning on Clay Travis' show, interviewing guy who has an article in the Wall Street Journal exposing Andrew Cuomo's complete mishandling of the pandemic, yet the media is so skewed in his favor he has a book coming out about how he "conquered" the virus  .

I need to read that, because living here in CT, I've sung the praises of Cuomo.  He did - from a perception point of view - everything he was supposed to do.  Open press conferences, candid responses, collaborative discussions (with Trump, with my governor, and with NJ's governor).   My governor - Ned Lamont, who I did NOT vote for (strenuously) but who has completely won me over - has been largely following Cuomo's lead and we've got some of the best numbers in the COUNTRY.   So while I have no dog in the Cuomo hunt, if it is in fact the case that he botched this, I think that casts a lot of the criticisms of Trump in a new light, because he was (supposedly) doing all the things Trump was supposed to.  That seems to tell me that this wasn't something that was going to be stopped or minimized by "leadership", but only by FULL cooperation between the disparate people that make up our society.  You don't need to be a Poly Sci major to know that that's not happening in this divisive, antagonistic society we live in, where our side is "morally right" and the other side are "deplorable/fascist idiots". 

I think it is a mixed bag.  There are aspects that he completely botched.  There are others that he handled very well.  What bothers me a bit is the way he disingenuously deflected from the things that he botched.  But that aside, I think as with the way it was handled anywhere, this thing was so complex, and there was so much unknown, and the scope of it was so big, that I think it is unfair to point to ANY government official and lean on them too heavily for the things they did wrong.  It just is what it is. 

[hunnus2000]

The fact that the States were basically left to fend for themselves and the fact that there was no real task force at the federal level only exasperated the challenges the States had, especially if you are a Blue State.

And while it was clear that my State had no disaster plan which is in itself is ridiculous it should piss off every American that the feds threw away the plan they were left with.

So say "it is what it is" but it didn't HAVE to be this way.

Yeah - I know we've already covered this.............

[cramx3]

So NJ opened gyms at 25% last week and finally are opening up indoor restaurants at 25% capacity this week.  Our R has been around 0.8 for a couple weeks now.  Most of the "new" deaths being reported are mostly actually old deaths just being accounted for being C19 deaths.  It kind of feels like the state did it's thing with tight restrictions and from being one of the worst areas in the world to one of the best now (when you consider the population density in this state).  While I don't plan on eating indoors (I havent even eaten outdoors) in the near future, it feels like it's about time to start opening more up now and monitor the R to see if it gets worse or if we can keep it low.

[emtee]

https://www.fox35orlando.com/

Under 2K new cases in FL for the first time in ages.

[jingle.boy]

https://www.fox35orlando.com/

Under 2K new cases in FL for the first time in ages.

That's good news!

[MoraWintersoul]

I'm back in Norway so I switched back to reading their corona news. Just in time for this big hit of a story that's doubtlessly going to hit more than local papers: some kids decided to throw a bunker rave, 200 people decided to show up, and social distancing was so possible and respected in those circumstances that 23 people ended up in the hospital with symptoms of CO2 poisoning. Human stupidity never ceases to amaze me. The weather is nice, invite a couple friends out to a house in the country (every friend group here has one person who has a house in the country), drink outside, play whatever music you want, stay distanced, no one has to know. But no, let's throw inside parties. Fucking ding dongs.

[jingle.boy]

I'm back in Norway so I switched back to reading their corona news. Just in time for this big hit of a story that's doubtlessly going to hit more than local papers: some kids decided to throw a bunker rave, 200 people decided to show up, and social distancing was so possible and respected in those circumstances that 23 people ended up in the hospital with symptoms of CO2 poisoning. Human stupidity never ceases to amaze me. The weather is nice, invite a couple friends out to a house in the country (every friend group here has one person who has a house in the country), drink outside, play whatever music you want, stay distanced, no one has to know. But no, let's throw inside parties. Fucking ding dongs.

Nice to hear that your finally back home, Milena.  That was a long what... 6-7 months??

[MoraWintersoul]

Nice to hear that your finally back home, Milena.  That was a long what... 6-7 months??

Almost five, I just took a little break from posting. Had to enter a 10 day quarantine when I came back too, so overall I spent 38 days in govt-mandated quarantine this year  going to a place where masks aren't mandatory and no one cares to really wear them was a bit of a shock as well. I bought some more reusable ones and will be wearing them out and about.