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This Dying Soul appreciation thread.

Started by Misirlou, May 25, 2025, 07:01:36 PM

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Misirlou

Noticed in the index of songs and albums that this one didn´t have a thread.

I´ll start by saying that Portnoy going half time at 6:39, while the riff from the Glass Prison keeps going, is probably the heaviest shit this band has done. Impossible not to headbang.

And this is amplified in Budokan, where he stands up to play that half time, you can hear the crowd going "Hey! Hey! Hey!" which is the exact reaction you´d get in any South American country in that part (excellent crowds, especially Argentina and Chile).

wolfking

Was my number 1 DT song for the longest time.  These days and the last countdown Octavarium just pipped it, but I find the whole thing intense and amazing.  Agree, love that Glass Prison riff reprise in the middle there.

That last minute is also one of my fav DT moments.  Just incredible.

TheBarstoolWarrior

More than any other song I think TDS captures that balls to the wall spirit they were going for on ToT.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Stadler

Quote from: wolfking on May 25, 2025, 07:13:36 PMWas my number 1 DT song for the longest time.  These days and the last countdown Octavarium just pipped it, but I find the whole thing intense and amazing.  Agree, love that Glass Prison riff reprise in the middle there.

That last minute is also one of my fav DT moments.  Just incredible.

This was always a favorite, but in recent listenings, it's really shined. In the last song countdown it wasn't #1, but it was #7.   Just a great song, and the perfect kind of heavy for me (fitting the song, not just heavy for the sake of being heavy).

Cool Chris

There's some good stuff here musically (though it does wear on me at bit toward the end - that's the era we're in with DT - but outside of the sections where James is singing in him normal style, I don't like the vocals at all.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

wolfking

Quote from: Stadler on May 26, 2025, 08:26:46 AMThis was always a favorite, but in recent listenings, it's really shined. In the last song countdown it wasn't #1, but it was #7.   Just a great song, and the perfect kind of heavy for me (fitting the song, not just heavy for the sake of being heavy).

The song has aged really really well IMO too.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

WilliamMunny

Yeah, def my favorite track of Train of Thought and probably my favorite 'ball's to the wall' metal song from the band. James just kills it from start to finish.

wolfking

Quote from: TAC on May 26, 2025, 05:02:47 PMUnlike TGP.

While I'll always disagree with you on TGP, I do agree and think it has aged not nearly as well as TDS has.

DTA

If the song lost that last minute or so of random noodling, it'd be pretty great. I think the majority of their 10+ minute long songs from 6DOIT through Black Clouds are bloated with unnecessary parts, but this one feels pretty tight and well-constructed aside from that ending.

durga2112

Come to think of it, this is probably my favourite song in the suite. It is relentlessly heavy, and I love the variety of vocal styles that LaBrie gets to use in it. I particularly like the part where he first sounds like James Hetfield ("Come to me my frieeeend"/"Blackened is the eeeeend"), and then Dave Mustaine (no particular Megadeth song comes to mind, but just the way he sounds when he's singing the "These tormenting ghosts of yesterday" section). I don't know if this was ever "proven", but I remember back in the day there was some discussion about the fact that those are two well known metal musicians who have struggled with addiction, so it's like they're being channeled in this song. Even if it's not what anyone intended, I choose to believe it as my own head canon.  :)

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

nobloodyname

I would just like to officially and formally register my love of This Dying Soul. Quite possibly a top ten DT tune for me. Yes, even the last minute of it :metal
 
Although The Glass Prison is still my favourite part of the suite.

gzarruk

Quote from: nobloodyname on May 27, 2025, 08:42:49 AMAlthough The Glass Prison is still my favourite part of the suite.

It's a shame that they still haven't released an official/accessible live version of it. The Bucharest show was never reissued through the LNFA, the one for Graspop 2002 wasn't properly recorded (the first half), and I don't think the Gigantour album is available anywhere. Hopefully we get one the next few years now that they've confirmed they plan to do the suite at some point.

brakkum

I need to give this song a revisit, it's one of the songs from ToT that kind of became "meh" over time, but I think I need to give it a fair shake again. TGP has always overshadowed it for me

Cool Chris

I gave TDS a listen at work today, and it was as I remembered. Some good stuff for the first few minutes, and then it descends in to awful vocals and mind-numbing noodling. My ears were a bit exhausted once it was over. Happily ES coming on next was nice palate cleanser for my ears.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

TAC

Quote from: Cool Chris on May 27, 2025, 04:13:14 PMI gave TDS a listen at work today, and it was as I remembered. Some good stuff for the first few minutes, and then it descends in to awful vocals and mind-numbing noodling. My ears were a bit exhausted once it was over. Happily ES coming on next was nice palate cleanser for my ears.
A great 1-2 punch!
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

CraftyCaleb2483

#17
I haven't listened to TDS in like two years :lol I should probably listen to it at some point, as I can't remember how it sounds apart from the first two minutes. But I remember disliking it intensely*

*Edit: though that was definitely because I have only heard the Budokan version, and I have to say that the album version sounds a whole lot better
Quote from: twosuitsluke on June 03, 2025, 01:46:34 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Evermind on March 30, 2025, 10:35:41 AMI'm gonna send 1) stuff that's too heavy 2) stuff that's too proggy 3) singers that sound like Freddie Mercury. Hope that sounds good.