NHL 2023-2024: Congrats Panthers. May the rats continue to fly.

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Anguyen92

If I can inject some humor out of all of this mess, one thing I learned about this whole thing with the Columbus Blue Jackets.  They had a mascot called Boomer....


gmillerdrake

Blues to announced their new captain today. It's one of two players. Brayden Schenn or Robert Thomas. Schenn has the grit and is a veteran and is who everyone thought should have gotten it over OReily. He'd be perfect. BUT, Robert Thomas is starting his eight year, $8 mil a year contract this year. He's won a cup and is a top level player....so, it could be him for the longevity factor. He'd certainly grow into the role. If it's me....I go Thomas simply due to his age and future. Schenn is older and oft injured.

Nick

What does it matter? Surely the Blues season is over with a pre-season injury to Torey Krug. :D

gmillerdrake

Quote from: Nick on September 19, 2023, 06:27:58 AM
What does it matter? Surely the Blues season is over with a pre-season injury to Torey Krug. :D

:lol  I'd be telling Krug that's a season ending injury.

Anguyen92


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Stadler


gmillerdrake

Actually.....the press briefing released by the NHL clearly states that the 'C' on Marchands jersey stands for 'cunt'

Nick

Quote from: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2023, 11:08:28 AM
Actually.....the press briefing released by the NHL clearly states that the 'C' on Marchands jersey stands for 'cunt'

You know, I was surprised that after a week in Scotland I did not hear that damn word once!

TAC

I can't wait for him to lick a ref's face after a bad call.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on April 22, 2023, 05:54:45 PMTAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

gmillerdrake

Quote from: Nick on September 20, 2023, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2023, 11:08:28 AM
Actually.....the press briefing released by the NHL clearly states that the 'C' on Marchands jersey stands for 'cunt'

You know, I was surprised that after a week in Scotland I did not hear that damn word once!

What!? Every TV show and movie would have you believe it's used in every other sentence uttered....

faizoff

Quote from: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2023, 11:48:37 AM
Quote from: Nick on September 20, 2023, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2023, 11:08:28 AM
Actually.....the press briefing released by the NHL clearly states that the 'C' on Marchands jersey stands for 'cunt'

You know, I was surprised that after a week in Scotland I did not hear that damn word once!

What!? Every TV show and movie would have you believe it's used in every other sentence uttered....

Speaking of Scottish people, in one of the audio commentaries of a Breaking Bad episode, they had Laura Fraser who plays Lydia. I'd forgotten she's Scottish as her American accent is so convincing in the show. On the commentary when everyone is saying their goodbyes, she signs out "Alright see ya later ya fukin cunts" cracking up everyone.

axeman90210

Quote from: gmillerdrake on September 20, 2023, 11:08:28 AM
Actually.....the press briefing released by the NHL clearly states that the 'C' on Marchands jersey stands for 'cunt'

Yeah, that makes more sense to me.

Stadler


axeman90210

Nah, wouldn't ever want him on my team. To me he moved past "he's an asshole but he's our asshole" territory. Maybe he's settled down, but I would've been embarrassed to see prime shit-stirrer Marchand ever wearing my team's jersey.

King Postwhore

I thought that too with Ken Linesman.  but when he became a Bruin, I loved him. 
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

jingle.boy

First, anyone interested in participating in a fantasy draft?  I've never run one before, but there are enough free draft manager sites out there, I'm sure I could figure it out.  I'm guessing 8 would be the minimum to play; 10 or 12 would be better.

Separately, anyone want to join a pool that I've been part of for about 7 years?  It's $20CAD, and pretty straight forward with picks (it's not a draft).  There's usually 100 people in it, first prize last year was $1200 I think (top 5 get in the money - I placed 4th a few years back; jingle.son was 5th last year).
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Anguyen92

So what's everyone's thoughts on their teams for this presesaon thus far?  Mine is with so much little space, the Kings is going to have a hard time thinking about moving down guys to the AHL like Alex Laferriere or Akil Thomas (who somehow scored a hat trick against the Golden Knights who iced a fair amount of their cup winning core that game).  Both look all right so far this preseason.  Also that 3rd Right Defense player spot isn't going to be easy to determine as Jordan Spence and Brandt Clarke looked solid enough in preseason thus far.  Internal competition and people looking to want to earn a roster spot is good to see.  Just makes it hard for the organization to make the final decision.

In other news, Andrei Vasilevskiy has gone through back surgery and will out for two months of the season.  The Bolts need a goalie and I think they may have an eye for someone through the waiver wire while they get through what looks to be a huge hill to climb for the first two months of the season in a highly contested Atlantic division.

gmillerdrake

Quote from: Anguyen92 on September 28, 2023, 03:34:55 PM
So what's everyone's thoughts on their teams for this presesaon thus far? 

I think the Blues have done a good job getting bigger and 'heavier' on the forward front and honestly, have a solid four lines. I don't think the offense will be their issue. They're issue will remain at D and if they can actually defend this year. They got pushed around a lot last year by the opposition and they've not done really anything to improve that....well....because they can't. They're tied to the players they have signed so it's kind of in the players court to man up and simply play better. I can't imagine they can do worse than last season but it is the Blues so I'm sure they can find a way to outdo themselves.

And as always.....we will play the game of watching Binnington be an overpaid average goalie who will make three saves a game he shouldn't and let four shots a game that he should stop in his sleep go in. Now that the homer Pang isn't there to try and brainwash the viewers into believing nothing is Binnington's fault....that'll be interesting to see how he's treated.

I think the Blues will make the playoffs though....win a first round series and stay competitive in the second. I just don't think they have a team that can make a deep run due to their D corps.

Nick

Red Wings are almost definitely better than last season, with DeBrincat up front and some good depth grit and scoring.

Biggest problem is they likely aren't cup contenders, and their window in a few years is made murkier by the fact that we have Holl and Chariot at overpays now and that will only get worse, and Compher who should be a great add now might also add to that in a few years. Still, I really think they could hit the playoffs again finally, which is exciting.

jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

axeman90210

Quote from: Anguyen92 on September 28, 2023, 03:34:55 PM
So what's everyone's thoughts on their teams for this presesaon thus far? 

I'm pretty thrilled with the Devils off-season/preseason. Losing Graves and Severson hurts the defense for sure, but Luke Hughes was already playing well enough to warrant 20+ minutes of ice time per game after only joining the team from college late in the spring, and Simon Nemec is also one of the highest rated D prospects in the league and may be ready to make the jump from the AHL this season. The forward group looks to be even better than last season with the shrewd Toffoli trade. Alexander Holtz, who has spent the last couple years playing very well in the AHL but not well enough when he's been called up, has been flashing some in the games so far. I think we'll also benefit from a full off-season with Timo Meier to really figure out the best line combinations, versus trying to incorporate him on the fly when we first acquired him. The goaltending isn't outstanding, but it should be good enough given the talent elsewhere. Especially if we can avoid  overworking one netminder in the regular season.

jingle.boy

Jesus H there are some hot fucking takes in the nhl.com power rankings this week:

PAUL STRIZHEVSKY

1. Vegas Golden Knights; 2. Carolina Hurricanes; 3. Florida Panthers; 4. Dallas Stars; 5. Toronto Maple Leafs; 6. Edmonton Oilers; 7. New Jersey Devils; 8. Seattle Kraken; 9. New York Rangers; 10. Colorado Avalanche; 11. Minnesota Wild; 12. Pittsburgh Penguins; 13. Los Angeles Kings; 14. Ottawa Senators; 15. Detroit Red Wings; 16. Buffalo Sabres

TRACEY MYERS

1. Vegas Golden Knights; 2. Dallas Stars; 3. New Jersey Devils; 4. Florida Panthers; 5. Seattle Kraken; 6. Colorado Avalanche; 7. Carolina Hurricanes; 8. Boston Bruins; 9. Edmonton Oilers; 10. Los Angeles Kings; 11. Toronto Maple Leafs; 12. New York Rangers; 13. Minnesota Wild; 14. Tampa Bay Lightning; 15. New York Islanders; 16. Arizona Coyotes

I just don't even ....
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

Anguyen92

The Panthers are going to be neutered with injuries on their blue line this season, so I'm not sure why those people are gung-ho about putting them in the top 5 in power rankings.

jingle.boy

Agreed... plus, you never know which version of Bobs is going to show up for the season.

Both of those writers are fucked.  Ottawa, Detroit, AND Buffalo ahead of the Lightning AND Boston ... the latter 2 not even on the list (ie, in the bottom 1/2 of the league)?

Tracey's takes have got to be a troll.  Kraken #5?  Carolina #7?  Toronto #11?  Arizona #16?

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

pg1067

Quote from: Anguyen92 on September 28, 2023, 03:34:55 PM
So what's everyone's thoughts on their teams for this presesaon thus far?

Ask me again in 10 days.

I just secured my Kings "birthday club" tickets for the 10/14 game.  My son (whose birthday is during the off-season) will probably secure his for the Thanksgiving weekend game.

SchecterShredder

Having the Panthers anywhere near the top 10 is silly. A Cinderella run to the final doesn't mean shit (see Oilers 2005-06). We're talking about a team that only made the playoffs because other teams lost on the last day of the season.

And in what reality is Boston going from record breaking season to finishing in the cellar? I don't pay attention to 'analyst' power rankings for this exact reason.  While some might provide insights using real info or metrics,  lots just want some attention. It's like predicting the stock market: you can be wrong 99/100 times,  and nobody cares/notices. You predict a single dark horse that actually emerges, and you look brilliant.

PAUL STRIZHEVSKY (don't even know who he is) is hoping to look brilliant,  and i very much hope the internet throws that ranking in his face when it's laughably wrong at the end of this season.

jingle.boy

To be fair, the actual rankings are an amalgamation of 13 different nhl.com writers.  They're usually pretty reasonable (below is the current ranking).  Most are fairly consistent, but some are fucking clowns... like these two.  I just posted it because I thought it was good for a laugh nhl.com/Network employs people that publish this tripe.

1. Knights; 2. Canes; 3. Stars; 4. Leafs; 5. Devils; 6. Avs; 7. Oilers; 8. Bruins; 9. Rangers; 10. Kings; 11. Panthers; 12. Kraken; 13. Penguins; 14. Bolts; 15. Wild; 16. Sabres.

I think those are pretty reasonable.  I'd personally put NYR ahead of the Bs, and swap the Bolts/Panthers.  I think the Bolts can play at or just above .500 hockey with my plumber in net, so they to be in good shape to have a solid back 2/3 of the season.

I think it's gonna be a hard fought battle between Fla, Bos, Tampa, Buf and Ottawa for spots 2-6 in the Atlantic.  On paper, the Leafs should be in good shape to take pole position; Buf/Ott are on the rise, while Bos/TB are looking to be on the decline (for understandable reasons), while Fla would do good just to hold even.  Then throw in Pitt/NYI, for 4th spot in the Metro.  I'm very intrigued to see how Pitt fares.  The East is gonna be stacked.  My bold prediction (I think I've made it here already) ... The Atlantic will send 5 to the Playoffs, and one of Bos/Fla will not make it.  Although, with Vasy's injury, it's conceivable TB falls to 5th or 6th.

Of course, imagine if another team (Columbus?) has a Devils-esque 49 point improvement to really mess things up.

God I love hockey.
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".


jingle.boy

Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".

billboy73

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lZ-0-N4wwQ

Excited to watch some games tonight.  I love watching this video.  The ESPN NHL theme was a huge part of my childhood, along with the great Gary Thorne on the call.  I was so happy when ESPN started covering the league again a couple of years ago.  When Barry Melrose hands over the conductor wand I always lose it.

Ready for another great season!

jingle.boy

Predictions time.  Bold (literally) are my playoff predictions

Atlantic:
Toronto
Tampa
Buffalo
Boston
Ottawa

Florida
Detroit
Montreal

Metro:
Carolina
New Jersey
Pittsburgh

New York Rangers
New York Islanders
Coumbus
Washington
Philadelphia

Central
Dallas
Colorado
Winnipeg
Minnesota

Nashville
St. Louis
Chicago
Arizona

West
Edmonton
Vegas
LA
Vancouver

Calgary
Seattle
Anaheim
San Jose
Quote from: TAC on July 31, 2021, 06:55:07 PMIf I can do it, it's idiot proof.
Quote from: Stadler on January 03, 2024, 09:00:00 AMThat's a word salad - and take it from me, I know word salad
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 04, 2021, 05:14:36 AMI fear for the day when something happens on the right that is SO nuts that even Stadler says "That's crazy".