The Mike Mangini Thread (Thanks & Farewell)

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Got a link to that interview?

This isn't it but they talk a bit about it in this interview at 3:55

https://youtu.be/flAAcaOyLNA?si=PRZj3S5leS_yXv4t

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

So, this morning Steve Vai and Joe Satriani announced the VaiSatch Band, with a tour kicking off in Europe.

I believe Mike said he had something music related planned for next year but he hasn't said specifically what. Vai and Satch haven't said who is in the band but given it is a new band it's an opportunity for a new drummer....

Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?

[Max Kuehnau]

I've been hoping Steve will call him again, he is one of his two most musical drummers (him and Vinnie Colaiuta)
If it's not him MM will be working with, my other hope is Hiromi, he would be brilliant playing her pieces (as Simon Phillips was)

[gzarruk]

I don't think they'll call MM for this, but I'd gladly be proven wrong if they do. A friend took me to see Vai live last year and it was an amazing experience.

[Max Kuehnau]

yeah I'd guess so (I never liked Jeremy Colson as his drummer though)

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I always thought Colson was alright but not on the level of Steve's prior drummers: Mike, Bozzio (one album I think), Virgil etc.

I see why Steve likes Jeremy. He's solid, younger and looks like a rock star. Now would be a great time to change though!

Or...did I hear correctly that Iron Maiden needs a new drummer?

[TAC]

Or...did I hear correctly that Iron Maiden needs a new drummer?

You did NOT hear that correctly.

[Stadler]

Look, no knock on Mangini, he could certainly handle it technically, but he'd be the last person I'd want to see get the Maiden gig.  Sorry, again, no disrespect, but it's a different kind of animal.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

What kind of animal is it?

[TheOutlawXanadu]

Look, no knock on Mangini, he could certainly handle it technically, but he'd be the last person I'd want to see get the Maiden gig.  Sorry, again, no disrespect, but it's a different kind of animal.

Agreed. I don't want any non-Englishmen in Maiden!

[Stadler]

What kind of animal is it?

Well, for one, it's a very British unit, as TheOutlaw said.  I think there's a looseness to it, a tongue-in-cheek part of it, that I haven't seen a lot of in Mike's work.  I think as serious as Maiden is as a touring entity and a recording entity, I think they'd take the piss out of some of the analytical aspect of Mangini's work.

I have a songbook with an interview with Harris, back in the '80s and every Q was like "So tell us about the screams in the beginning of Killers?" or "So tell us about the fills in the verses of "Wrathchild?" and every answer was "Well, it felt right, really. That's all there is to it."   

[Dedalus]

Look, no knock on Mangini, he could certainly handle it technically, but he'd be the last person I'd want to see get the Maiden gig.  Sorry, again, no disrespect, but it's a different kind of animal.

I think that in the current circumstances they just want someone who will sit on the stool and play the songs and be quiet.

So, at least from a musical point of view, it could be anyone who can play Iron Maiden (i.e. an extraordinarily large number of drummers in the world would easily fit in), as long as they do that... be quiet and play the songs.

I know that if you look at Mike Mangini from DT and look at Iron Maiden, it seems like there's no way he could fit in, but if he gets the sideman thing right, he could play anywhere. He has the potential to be a kind of Vinnie Colaiuta, who between 2004 and 2006 played on albums by Megadeth, Olivia Newton-John, Michael Bublé and Al Jarreau 

In fact, MM's early career was quite eclectic: Annihilator, Extreme and Steve Vai.

But either way, it seems to me that Mike wants to focus on staying home and making a living teaching drums. And of course Steve Harris would never choose someone who wasn't British and one of his own.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Well, for one, it's a very British unit, as TheOutlaw said.  I think there's a looseness to it, a tongue-in-cheek part of it, that I haven't seen a lot of in Mike's work.  I think as serious as Maiden is as a touring entity and a recording entity, I think they'd take the piss out of some of the analytical aspect of Mangini's work.

I have a songbook with an interview with Harris, back in the '80s and every Q was like "So tell us about the screams in the beginning of Killers?" or "So tell us about the fills in the verses of "Wrathchild?" and every answer was "Well, it felt right, really. That's all there is to it."   

I think maybe you could be right on the US - British thing. But we'll see!

I would personally favor the Vai project for him to return to the stage.

[TAC]

He's definitely not going to Iron Maiden. Nicko's replacement has already been announced.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

He's definitely not going to Iron Maiden. Nicko's replacement has already been announced.

VaiSatch here we come! 

[hefdaddy42]

He has the potential to be a kind of Vinnie Colaiuta, who between 2004 and 2006 played on albums by Megadeth, Olivia Newton-John, Michael Bublé and Al Jarreau 

I love Mangini, but he will never be a Colaiuta.

[Dedalus]

I love Mangini, but he will never be a Colaiuta.

Well, I think he could easily make a living like Colaiuta does, that is, getting paid to play exactly the way the people who are paying him want him to play.

Colaiuta is a genius on the drums, but in my opinion, at many points in his work he is quite pragmatic, simply playing what he was paid to play. Mangini could do that, in my opinion.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I love Mangini, but he will never be a Colaiuta.

No one will be.

[Max Kuehnau]

I love Mangini, but he will never be a Colaiuta.

of course not (but both are among my heroes, although Vinnie is and will always be one of my eternal two as it were. Jeff Porcaro is the other one.), I was just mentioning that both worked with Vai (and what they both did is great IMHO)

[Dedalus]

of course not (but both are among my heroes, although Vinnie is and will always be one of my eternal two as it were. Jeff Porcaro is the other one.), I was just mentioning that both worked with Vai (and what they both did is great IMHO)

Jeff Porcaro is another good example. He was not quite at the level of Vinnie Colaiuta, but that hasn't stopped him from having a prolific career as a sideman, and a pretty versatile one at that. And others... Jim Keltner for example.