Doctor Who

[faemir]

I like how they didn't have to use much alien this episode, and it was in fact just a catalyst for the great storytelling of Van Gogh

Oh and who's played the new video game? I completed it in one sitting, awaiting the next episode

[ariich]

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that, will have to download it!

[bodiesinflight]

You found Cold Blood disappointing?

Very

Badly paced, badly structured, turning enemies into stupid gimmicks who destroy themselves in sudden fits of disarray, everything new Dr. Who does so badly that old Dr. Who didn't.


Enjoyed last night's one tho.

[ariich]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10262266.stm

US Torchwood has been scrapped, but instead Series 4 is going to be co-funded by BBC Wales, BBC Worldwide and a US network and is going to take place in various global locations, as well as feature some US cast. Barrowman and Myles both confirmed to be returning, no idea about anyone else.

Could be pretty good; might lose some of the charm it had when all set in Cardiff, but we'll see. Davies will be leading it again though, so the writing should be of a good standard!

[robwebster]

It's international, it's still headed by RTD and it still has Gwen and Jack. That's fantastic in my little world.

To be fair, Children of Earth trampled all over series 1 and 2, and that was barely Cardiffian at all. I think as long as they keep a sort of pokey, local grounding rather than just going "RIGHT, London, New York, sorted." I think the real triumph of Cardiff as a location is that it shows events with implications for real, unglorified communities as opposed to cliche population centres on a massive scale.

[ariich]

Well exactly. Promising stuff though!

Just watched the Van Gogh episode again, and IT'S JUST SO LOVELY! Definitely one of my favourite episodes ever.

[robwebster]

Oh god yes! I loved Vincent. I wanted him to stay with them. Imagine that; Vincent van Gogh as a companion. Could never end well, though.

[ariich]

Yeah I'm not sure it would have worked in the long run.

[ACID_FOX]

Hmm, I loved the way COE wrapped everything up, I don't think I want to see a fourth season.

[robwebster]

I think, if they were to end it outright, Children of Earth would be a bold and fitting note to finish on. However, as it is, there have been mumblings for a while, so outside of universe I've always got the impression it wasn't over, so now that I know there's a next chapter I'm very eager to discover what it is.

[ariich]

Yesterday's Doctor Who was fantastic! Just caught up with it this morning, really exciting and really funny. James Corden was fab, and the end of the episode was very tantalising...

[robwebster]

Oh god, and the trailer. I repeated that crazy bastard till I vomited. In less than a week the Pandorica opens!

[ariich]

[robwebster]

Just saw it again. Think I heard Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans, Sycorax, Nestene, Slitheen... oh it's going to be a good finale.

[robwebster]

You know that feeling you get when you get off a rollercoaster and you're all shaken up, and a little bit overwhelmed and giddy?

That's how I feel. Shellshocked. Wonderful. Just wonderful. Best first part yet. Loved the pre-titles sequence! And... well, I'm aware that the Americans won't have seen it yet, so I'm hesitant to say too much.

(but the Autons! And that one particular Auton. Jesus christ.)

[XJDenton]

.....bloody hellfire.

[faemir]

WHAAAAAAAAT‽

[mizzl]

What are you guys all talking about?

[faemir]

Today's episode

[mizzl]

Today's episode

It's not on bittorrent yet, is it? Or is it that Lodger one?

[robwebster]

No! Damn well isn't. Good though the Lodger was... CHRIST!

The Pandorica Opens. Keep your eyes peeled.

[faemir]

Funny how the ones with the weakest story (vampires, lodger) have Smith's best acting.

warning, spoilers: (I tried to speak cryptically though)

His moment at the end of the latest was brilliant though, I don't know how someone will come back, unless they bring out some BS reason like "oh x cant die because they are all from x's imagination", and how can RS die - that doesn't chronologically work.

I think the end of the latest would have been great for the ending of the series, so we'd have to wait till xmas to get the next event

[mizzl]

Just watched TPO





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[robwebster]

I know, right!

[ariich]

Oh. My. F***ing. God.

I mean, Doctor Who 2-parters always have the first one end on ridiculous cliffhangers, but this one is just another level up. How the hell are they going to get out of that?!

[robwebster]

The only one even vaguely capable is... well, the emotional Roman, to stay cagey.

I like that they all have their own, personal dilemmas. That's very clever. Heck, 'salmost the opposite of what The Stolen Earth did.

The series 4 finale just conspired to draw all the characters together. Usually along the lines of "ragh, Daleks!"

Actually, just for a second, when the door cracked open to the tune of a Dalek voice, I was worried it was gonna take the form of Army of Ghosts, and it'd turn out that it was just Daleks inside.

ALSO. In retrospect, those scenes in The Eleventh Hour and particularly Flesh and Stone, where Prisoner Zero and the Weeping Angels laugh at the Doctor not knowing what the Pandorica was... take on a REALLY sinister tone.

I'm actually at the point where I don't want to speculate for next week. I don't want to deconstruct and I don't want a single preview clip. I just want to sit down on Saturday and have all my presents at once. I don't even have the faintest hint what tone the next episode might take, or where it'll be set, or anything like that. Very 'citing.

[ariich]

SPOILERS:


















Upon further thought, this is by far the cleverest way the autons have ever been used. We don't know they're autons, because they don't even know it themselves. Completely brilliant!

[faemir]

When was the last time the autons were used again?

[robwebster]

Rose. S1E1. Where they were a wee bit peripheral.

Upon further thought, this is by far the cleverest way the autons have ever been used. We don't know they're autons, because they don't even know it themselves. Completely brilliant!

I think Steven Moffat is really good at reinvention. He comes up with a new twist whenever an enemy reappears. The cyberman scene was equally fantastic, and he came up with something completely new with the Weepies, too.

Seeing Rory's hand Autonise... oh god, that was mad. The second it flipped open... heartbreaking! It's a bit like a reverse John Smith.

Although, at one point, I thought they might have been Prisoner Zeroes. Multiforms? Plugging into Amy's subconscious, manifesting themselves as the things that were important to her.

[setrataeso]

The girl I'm seeing right now convinced me to watch Dr Who, because she's obsessed with it.
I love it so far.

[robwebster]

The girl you're seeing is mad clever.

Where have you watched from/to?

[setrataeso]

The girl you're seeing is mad clever.

Where have you watched from/to?

Going from the 2005 reboot...just the first 2 episodes.
She says I haven't even gotten to the good stuff yet, but I'm already hooked

[robwebster]

Aha! Oh legendary. She's right, though. You haven't. Oh it gets so so good.

I mean, I know how good the later stuff is, so I've lately been recommending people to start with the Eleventh Hour. I was hooked from S1E1, though. Only ever missed one episode. You've got The Unquiet Dead next, that's a treat!

Ohhh, and then there's The Empty Child... The Impossible Planet... Blink! Oh and the cliffhanger to Utopia. So many good cliffhangers, actually. The Waters of Mars!

Part of me wants to ask you to give us progress reports as you go along. You've got so much to look forward to.

...Silence in the Library!

[setrataeso]

Yep, I'll tell you guys what I think. Hell, I posted in this thread, so I'm already receiving notifications of unread posts might as well participate.

[robwebster]

Aha, lush! Good man. Just cover your eyes on Saturday. The series 5 finale's airing, we'll probably be spaffing buckets.