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Blastoise vs Bowser

Started by Chino, November 15, 2009, 10:15:17 AM

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Chino

Quote from: In The Wake Of Poseidon on November 15, 2009, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: pogoowner on November 15, 2009, 11:48:18 AM
Super Mario Bros. is awesome, while Pokemon is trash, so the decision is very easy.  :)
Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow was better than any mario game ever.

truth

Shadoshi

Guys seriously? Bowser isn't all about fire ya'know! Like Reap said, he's got a lot of other tricks up his sleeves. Blastoise would have to have one very good trainer to direct him in order to beat Bowser.


Besides:


Space Invader

This thread is turning into a warzone.  :lol

skydivingninja

Water beats fire.  The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective.  Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB).  None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.

ZBomber


Jamesman42

What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
\o\ lol /o/

Dimitrius

Quote from: Jamesman on November 15, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
Fuck Pikachu, 'nough said.

Jamesman42

Quote from: Dimitrius on November 15, 2009, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Jamesman on November 15, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
Fuck Pikachu, 'nough said.

Already did, but I got burned.
\o\ lol /o/

Dimitrius

Quote from: Jamesman on November 15, 2009, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: Dimitrius on November 15, 2009, 02:24:47 PM
Quote from: Jamesman on November 15, 2009, 01:33:57 PM
What about Pikachu, you know he (she?) has something to say!
Fuck Pikachu, 'nough said.

Already did, but I got burned.
Better get yourself checked.

Ben_Jamin

What if Bowser evolves into GigaBowser?

Chino


TheVoxyn


setrataeso

Quote from: skydivingninja on November 15, 2009, 01:11:23 PM
Water beats fire.  The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective.  Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB).  None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.

Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.

TheVoxyn

Quote from: setrataeso on November 15, 2009, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: skydivingninja on November 15, 2009, 01:11:23 PM
Water beats fire.  The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective.  Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB).  None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.

Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.
:coolio

Chino

Quote from: setrataeso on November 15, 2009, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: skydivingninja on November 15, 2009, 01:11:23 PM
Water beats fire.  The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective.  Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB).  None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.

Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.

Bowser is not a pokemon, the rules of multipliers and critical hits don't matter. 

TheVoxyn

Bowser has loads of minions that would help him.


XianL

Blastoise. Bowser, while one of my favourite SSB characters, is a pussy.

Gwii


Chino


Space Invader


setrataeso

Quote from: Chino on November 15, 2009, 04:15:31 PM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 15, 2009, 04:06:17 PM
Quote from: skydivingninja on November 15, 2009, 01:11:23 PM
Water beats fire.  The only other type Bowser could be is MAYBE ground, but that would just make Blastoise's Surf (since Hydro Pump isn't accurate enough) x4 effective.  Bowser only seems to know Rapid Spin, Slash, Flamethrower, and Stomp (going off SSBB).  None of those would really be effective against Blastoise.

Actually surf would be x6 effective. Because Surf is a water-based move, and Blastoise is a water-type. So that adds x1.5 on top of the x4. And that's without including critical hits.

Bowser is not a pokemon, the rules of multipliers and critical hits don't matter. 

I thought we all agreed that those minor technicalities don't apply in this particular fight.
Or maybe we didn't.
Either way, I'm just providing that facts necessary to formulate an educated judgment on the situation.

Shadoshi


TheOutlawXanadu

Quote from: ReaPsTA on November 15, 2009, 12:08:32 PM
Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on November 15, 2009, 11:22:19 AM
Blastoise. As mentioned above, Bowser's fire would be ineffective against Blastoise and Bowser can't even beat a midget plumber in a fight.

You guys are focusing too much on the fire. Bowser has claws, hammers, nimble jumping, and a spiked shell. Blastoise is slow, immobile, and his hydro cannons are his only meaningful weapon.

As for the Mario argument, it's not a worthy comparison. Mario is more nimble and tactically intelligent than both Blastoise and Bowser. Blastoise is less nimble and intelligent than Bowser. Mario beats Bowser because of advantages Blastoise doesn't have, so there's no reason to bring him into this conversation.

I think it comes down to the attacks Blastoise has equipped, as mentioned above. If he enters the battle with Harden, Hydro Pump, Strength and Surf there's really nothing Bowser can do.

Global Laziness

Quote from: Shadoshi on November 15, 2009, 12:29:13 PM
Guys seriously? Bowser isn't all about fire ya'know! Like Reap said, he's got a lot of other tricks up his sleeves. Blastoise would have to have one very good trainer to direct him in order to beat Bowser.


Besides:



He stole a magic wand? That hardly seems fair.

Shadoshi

He don play by thah rools, bitches.

Global Laziness

Quote from: Shadoshi on November 16, 2009, 05:24:31 PM
He don play by thah rools, bitches.

Well then I'd say he should be disqualified.

Space Invader

Quote from: Global Laziness on November 16, 2009, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: Shadoshi on November 16, 2009, 05:24:31 PM
He don play by thah rools, bitches.

Well then I'd say he should be disqualified.

Besides, he's a failure no many how many times he tries.
Blastoise kicks ass no matter what.

Gwii


XianL

Quote from: TheOutlawXanadu on November 16, 2009, 11:05:47 AM
I think it comes down to the attacks Blastoise has equipped, as mentioned above. If he enters the battle with Harden Iron Defense, Hydro Pump, Strength Skull Bash and Surf Rain Dance there's really nothing Bowser can do.

ZachyDou

Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.

Chino

Quote from: ZachyDou on November 17, 2009, 05:24:05 AM
Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.

Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.

mizzl

Wow, talk about over-speculating  :) 
But yeah, Blastoise. Who would win if you would add Mew to the mix though?

setrataeso

Quote from: Chino on November 17, 2009, 06:32:29 AM
Quote from: ZachyDou on November 17, 2009, 05:24:05 AM
Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.

Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.

But the minions don't do anything really.
Just jump on them.

Chino

Quote from: setrataeso on November 17, 2009, 08:42:03 AM
Quote from: Chino on November 17, 2009, 06:32:29 AM
Quote from: ZachyDou on November 17, 2009, 05:24:05 AM
Besides, if Bowser gets to use minions and weapons, then Blastoise should be able to tag team with other pokemon and use items.

Nah. that would be beat. He already has TM and HM moves. Bowser is allowed his minions.

But the minions don't do anything really.


They are distractions.Blastoise would have to acknowledge them at some point.