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Max Kuehnau

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on July 30, 2024, 04:52:13 PMDT usually spends about 2-4 weeks mixing their albums if I'm not mistaken. But it depends on the album. I know TA took a lot longer cuz JP said they had around 500 tracks total, which is insane.

Not sure how long mastering takes.
clearly, The Astonishing was a special case in that respect
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Progmaniac1988

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on July 31, 2024, 09:43:45 AMwell, IIRC, SW doesn't really like their music (if at all), so that's unlikely I guess, and it's no secret that he won't mix anything he doesn't like. (not that I'd mind this time around, since I won't listen to DT16 but anyway :D )

You wouldn't happen to prefer MM's drumming would you?? 🤔 lol I'm actually legit curious to what you'll think of Portnoys playing on DT16.

crystalstars17

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on July 31, 2024, 11:38:32 AMthe cat, by Jordan Rudess (cue his solo) (I had to, sorry  :lol )

How about the three little Pigs?!  :rollin
The impossible is never out of reach

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: Progmaniac1988 on July 31, 2024, 12:35:52 PMYou wouldn't happen to prefer MM's drumming would you?? 🤔 lol I'm actually legit curious to what you'll think of Portnoys playing on DT16.
that remains to be seen (or not)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Max Kuehnau

All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

DT05

Quote from: Schurftkut on July 31, 2024, 08:46:29 AMi'm still hoping for a Steven Wilson mix for a DT album. Let the guys sound natural for once

Also imagine if Devin Townsend got to produce something for them.
Half of my posts are satire; the other half are serious. If you can't tell which half you're looking at, it's probably the former. I enjoy busting chops amongst likeminded fellows. Where better to feel at home than among the fans of the world's most fun band? :)

Max Kuehnau

unusual choice (on the surface), but I know MP likes his work (and of course Devin toured with DT in 2021 if you remember), we'll see
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am


NoFred

Quote from: illusionist on July 31, 2024, 02:57:51 AMAside the release date, I'm wondering if they announce album and songs titles, or reveal the cover art before the O2 gig.

Cover art usually takes 5-10 minutes, I wouldn't think they can fit that in before the show... :smiley:


Honestly hoping for a memorable album title and cover, something that meets the moment.

DT05

The order I imagine the reveal will be is:

ALBUM TITLE, then...
ALBUM COVER (possibly same day), then...
TRACKLIST TITLES, then...
TRACKLENGTHS (possible same day), then...
WRITING CREDITS

We'll probably be left with like a solid month of speculating which song(s) are instrumental and which aren't, if any of them even are. As for when the first single comes out in this mix, I imagine after tracklengths but before writing credits.
Half of my posts are satire; the other half are serious. If you can't tell which half you're looking at, it's probably the former. I enjoy busting chops amongst likeminded fellows. Where better to feel at home than among the fans of the world's most fun band? :)

emtee

The important thing to remember, for everybody, is that it's just music. Have an open mind upon your first spins and either you like it or you don't. Whether it is MP or MM and regardless of what era, it's only music.

DT05

Exactly. There's great music like the Portnoy era, and then there's awful music like the Mangini era. Some people are more comfortable with lesser good music and that's totally fine! It's just important not to let places become an echo chamber.
Half of my posts are satire; the other half are serious. If you can't tell which half you're looking at, it's probably the former. I enjoy busting chops amongst likeminded fellows. Where better to feel at home than among the fans of the world's most fun band? :)

WilliamMunny


crystalstars17

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:56:18 AMExactly. There's great music like the Portnoy era, and then there's awful music like the Mangini era. Some people are more comfortable with lesser good music and that's totally fine! It's just important not to let places become an echo chamber.

There is no greater echo chamber than your elitist kind.

The impossible is never out of reach

illusionist

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:43:10 AMThe order I imagine the reveal will be is:

ALBUM TITLE, then...
ALBUM COVER (possibly same day), then...
TRACKLIST TITLES, then...
TRACKLENGTHS (possible same day), then...
WRITING CREDITS

We'll probably be left with like a solid month of speculating which song(s) are instrumental and which aren't, if any of them even are. As for when the first single comes out in this mix, I imagine after tracklengths but before writing credits.

What a beautiful ritual to look forward to!
It's my 11th new album cycle and this waiting never gets old i must tell ya.
How many emotions upon the waiting and reveal of all these data.
And then the assumptions about the songs, if there's an instrumental, which one is heavy, which one is a ballad (if any) etc.
God i love this whole experience.
Oh wait, i love Dream Theater!

MirrorMask

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:43:10 AMThe order I imagine the reveal will be is:

ALBUM TITLE, then...
ALBUM COVER (possibly same day), then...
TRACKLIST TITLES, then...
TRACKLENGTHS (possible same day), then...
WRITING CREDITS

We'll probably be left with like a solid month of speculating which song(s) are instrumental and which aren't, if any of them even are. As for when the first single comes out in this mix, I imagine after tracklengths but before writing credits.

I'd say:

Album title + cover + release date first

Tracklist (and possibly lengths) later

Credits will be only in the booklet

fadetoblackdude7

I'm gonna say:
Title/cover/track list/release date/first single on the same day

Song lengths/credits on a later day

hefdaddy42

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:56:18 AMExactly. There's great music like the Portnoy era, and then there's awful music like the Mangini era. Some people are more comfortable with lesser good music and that's totally fine! It's just important not to let places become an echo chamber.
Insulting the band, and insulting members here.  

You're on thin ice, my dude.  Cut it out.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Hypothetically speaking if we all chipped in $1 does that cover the cost of adding a 'dislike' button?  :biggrin:
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

CraftyCaleb2483

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:56:18 AMExactly. There's great music like the Portnoy era, and then there's awful music like the Mangini era. Some people are more comfortable with lesser good music and that's totally fine! It's just important not to let places become an echo chamber.
Ok, you've made your point, no need to keep going on about this on every single thread. MM is an actual person so it is very disrespectful to constantly call what he has spent years doing 'rubbish,' and then to blame all the other members faults on him.
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on August 01, 2024, 07:05:22 AMInsulting the band, and insulting members here. 

You're on thin ice, my dude.  Cut it out.
Finally, someone here to save us from this downplay of Mangini
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on November 24, 2024, 11:43:49 AM
Quote from: CraftyCaleb2483 on November 24, 2024, 11:04:36 AM??: King Crimson – 21st Century Schizoid Man
Betting on: Vocals too harsh, too heavy, not proggy enough

CraftyCaleb2483

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on August 01, 2024, 09:44:26 AMHypothetically speaking if we all chipped in $1 does that cover the cost of adding a 'dislike' button?  :biggrin:
:lol
Quote from: twosuitsluke on October 14, 2024, 02:27:06 PMCaleb also has way better taste
Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on November 24, 2024, 11:43:49 AM
Quote from: CraftyCaleb2483 on November 24, 2024, 11:04:36 AM??: King Crimson – 21st Century Schizoid Man
Betting on: Vocals too harsh, too heavy, not proggy enough

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on August 01, 2024, 09:44:26 AMHypothetically speaking if we all chipped in $1 does that cover the cost of adding a 'dislike' button?  :biggrin:
if that were to be instated, my posts would be a primary target I guess (although I do my best to be friendly of course)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

pg1067

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on July 31, 2024, 11:38:32 AMthe cat, by Jordan Rudess (cue his solo) (I had to, sorry  :lol )

I can only imagine what he'd do with that simple cat theme.

JLB:  Narrator
JM:  Grandfather and Duck
JP:  Peter and Bird
JR:  Cat and Wolf
MP:  Hunters (vibe pad, tympani and bass drum) and Bird (in unison with JP on glock or crotales)
Feelin' kinda spooky.

Max Kuehnau

All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Glasser

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:56:18 AMExactly. There's great music like the Portnoy era, and then there's awful music like the Mangini era. Some people are more comfortable with lesser good music and that's totally fine! It's just important not to let places become an echo chamber.

I really wanted to avoid responding to this but do you even really like DT? This is completely mind blowing to read.  ???

Max Kuehnau

#3385
Quote from: Glasser on August 01, 2024, 12:26:21 PMI really wanted to avoid responding to this but do you even really like DT? This is completely mind blowing to read.  ???
Make no mistake, I get asked this a lot too (if not here), because I only choose to listen to MM era DT (although I'm familiar with all their work and I used to enjoy most of MP era DT up until a certain point. I don't anymore. I still like DT, if that makes sense) Including any and all comments about me being mind-blowing of course. I have no issue with people loving any and all DT though, which might be a difference. (and indeed, MP era DT is significantly easier to stomach for most people than MM era DT, which is why most people are attracted to MP era DT and indeed they are happy about him rejoining)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Glasser

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on August 01, 2024, 12:30:03 PMMake no mistake, I get asked this a lot too (if not here), because I only choose to listen to MM era DT (although I'm familiar with all their work) Including any and all comments about me being mind-blowing of course. I have no issue with people loving any and all DT though, which might be a difference.

So you follow MM not DT? This is even more mind blowing to read. You have no issue with people loving any and all DT? I have to leave this alone. :facepalm:

Max Kuehnau

#3387
used to follow both, but over time I found it easier to enjoy what MM did (even before he was in DT, when he was with Steve Vai, I got into DT and Vai at around the same time as a child) and yes, I have literally no issue with people loving anything DT do (it's just that I don't,not anymore anyway, for various reasons) And yes, I know I'm a bit of a weirdo. I don't mind though. And I'm still here although MM left, because it's a nice place here. Very friendly people here (myself included hopefully, I always do my best anyway)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Glasser

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on August 01, 2024, 12:38:04 PMused to follow both, but over time I found it easier to enjoy what MM did (even before he was in DT, when he was with Steve Vai, I got into DT and Vai at around the same time as a child) and yes, I have literally no issue with people loving anything DT do (it's just that I don't, for various reasons) And yes, I know I'm a bit of a weirdo.

I don't think you're a weirdo my friend but finding DT through following Mangini is definitely interesting. Hypothetically, if Mangini were to re-record the MP era could that change your opinion of those albums? The songs are still the songs and its a huge coincidence you only like the MM albums. Growing up a die hard DT fan I never in a million years thought I would ever be having this discussion. You can understand that right?

crystalstars17

@Max, just wanted to say that I love your signature quote. That's one of my favorite and most meaningful lyrics in the song.
The impossible is never out of reach

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: Glasser on August 01, 2024, 12:49:29 PMI don't think you're a weirdo my friend but finding DT through following Mangini is definitely interesting. Hypothetically, if Mangini were to re-record the MP era could that change your opinion of those albums? The songs are still the songs and its a huge coincidence you only like the MM albums. Growing up a die hard DT fan I never in a million years thought I would ever be having this discussion. You can understand that right?
I do understand yes. Now, though not strictly him having re recorded I/W and Met2 in the classic sense of the term, yes, I loved his interpretations of these drum parts (he elevated them in various ways) and indeed any version of him doing MP era material, and I mostly loved MP era DT albums concerning the writing anyway (some exceptions), just not the execution of the parts, so it was really nice to be able to hear almost all the MP era material they played when he was in the band (saw that lineup three times live myself), loved all three of them (had to skip the Dramatic Turn tour, sadly as well as the D/T and View tours, mostly for health reasons) I found both DT and Vai through some musician friends btw. (like most people seem to), not because MM was in their ranks at the time (this was around 1996 I guess, he had still been working with Vai at the time. I found both I/W and Fire Garden at the time, these were my respective introductions to their work)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Max Kuehnau

#3391
Quote from: crystalstars17 on August 01, 2024, 12:50:29 PM@Max, just wanted to say that I love your signature quote. That's one of my favorite and most meaningful lyrics in the song.
yeah it's one that is very meaningful to me for various reasons (not a common thing, because I don't process music emotionally, but as analytically as I can go, but that's just an aside here)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Glasser

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on August 01, 2024, 12:54:35 PMthough not strictly him having re recorded I/W and Met2 in the classic sense of the term, yes, I loved his interpretations of these drum parts (he elevated them in various ways) and indeed any version of him doing MP era material, and I mostly loved MP era DT albums concerning the writing anyway (some exceptions), so it was really nice to be able to hear almost all the MP era material they played when he was in the band (saw that lineup three times live myself), loved all three of them (had to skip the Dramatic Turn tour, sadly as well as the D/T and View tours, mostly for health reasons)

I'm sorry to hear you had health issues, I hope all is well.

Max Kuehnau

at this point, yes, things are as well as they can be, which is a relief
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Progmaniac1988

Quote from: DT05 on August 01, 2024, 05:56:18 AMExactly. There's great music like the Portnoy era, and then there's awful music like the Mangini era. Some people are more comfortable with lesser good music and that's totally fine! It's just important not to let places become an echo chamber.

Damn dude, even as a Portnoy fan myself I rolled my eyes. Stop making us look bad damn it!