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The official Opeth thread v. In Cauda Venenum

Started by KevShmev, July 20, 2014, 08:25:26 AM

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What are your three favorite Opeth records?

Orchid
7 (2.8%)
Morningrise
15 (6.1%)
My Arms, Your Hearse
26 (10.6%)
Still Life
81 (32.9%)
Blackwater Park
161 (65.4%)
Deliverance
43 (17.5%)
Damnation
53 (21.5%)
Ghost Reveries
152 (61.8%)
Watershed
66 (26.8%)
Heritage
21 (8.5%)
Pale Communion
32 (13%)

Total Members Voted: 246

Voting closed: June 13, 2020, 07:32:34 AM

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Zantera

#1890
August 02, 2024, 03:42:59 AM

Zydar

#1891
August 02, 2024, 03:52:56 AM
haha  ;D

emtee

#1892
August 02, 2024, 04:52:53 AM
I need more spins to digest it. My immediate reaction was, 'I've heard this before.' Not saying I don't like it...just need a few more listens.

wolfking

#1893
August 02, 2024, 05:29:34 AM
Quote from: Mladen on August 02, 2024, 03:26:17 AMI've been looking at Wikipedia...

So, §1, §2, §3 etc. are all official song titles?  :lol

What does that symbol mean?  To a dumb Aussie it just looks like hieroglyphics.

Zydar

#1894
August 02, 2024, 05:36:04 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 02, 2024, 05:29:34 AMWhat does that symbol mean?  To a dumb Aussie it just looks like hieroglyphics.
It's a paragraph sign, to reference a specific paragraph within a section of a document. I'm assuming it has to do with the title "The Last Will And Testament".

I don't know if the song titles are to be pronounced "1st Paragraph" or "Paragraph One".

TheHoveringSojourn808

#1895
August 02, 2024, 06:42:33 AM
Are there track lengths posted anywhere? How much of an edit is this first release? Is it like a 6 min song or a 10 min song I mean

also the track names are kind of giving Sigur Ros - (), lol
Stay out of the sun, because it is the worst thing in terms of aging. I'm very medical. I come from a medical family. - Nicole Kidman

faizoff

#1896
August 02, 2024, 06:45:52 AM
01 - §1 (00:06:11)
02 - §2 (00:05:40)
03 - §3 (00:05:11)
04 - §4 (00:07:05)
05 - §5 (00:07:35)
06 - §6 (00:06:16)
07 - §7 (00:06:28)
08 - A Story Never Told (00:07:10)

This is on one of the pre-order page listings

TheHoveringSojourn808

#1897
August 02, 2024, 06:49:36 AM
Interesting, thanks for posting that! I agree with whoever mentioned they shouldn't have bothered with a single edit lol

EDIT: Though maybe it's just like 45 seconds of spoken word intro or something? In that case, would make sense to edit it out for the hype release
Stay out of the sun, because it is the worst thing in terms of aging. I'm very medical. I come from a medical family. - Nicole Kidman

twosuitsluke

#1898
August 02, 2024, 06:55:32 AM
Apparently the unedited version of the song is on Apple Music. I read that it's an instrumental section that segues into the next song.
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

billboy73

#1899
August 02, 2024, 07:19:41 AM
Man, I was blown away when I heard the song last night! Can't wait for the album to drop.  Really love the atmosphere of the song.  The cover art, the concept, and the song all have me so excited for this album!

fadetoblackdude7

#1900
August 02, 2024, 07:27:58 AM
Quote from: Zydar on August 02, 2024, 05:36:04 AMIt's a paragraph sign, to reference a specific paragraph within a section of a document. I'm assuming it has to do with the title "The Last Will And Testament".

I don't know if the song titles are to be pronounced "1st Paragraph" or "Paragraph One".
So strange that only one song has an actual title 😂

twosuitsluke

#1901
August 02, 2024, 07:32:10 AM
I've already listened to it like 7 or 8 times. It's kind of a strange song, and I don't love it yet, but I am interested.

I'm terrible at describing what I'm hearing, so bear with me.

The intro is weirdly reminiscent of something older, but also could fit right in on ICV. I think it's the drumming that gives me Oldpeth.

That weird droning, siren wail sound is kinda creepy, but i like it. The growls are definitely welcomed but Mikael's cleans sound like they do on ICV. I don't know if it's the way they're recorded/sung, but it's a very distinct style that I don't think he's used on precious records.

Anyone know who else is doing vocals on this track? There seem to be a few instances where Mikael isn't the one singing (talking?).
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Zydar

#1902
August 02, 2024, 07:36:46 AM
I'm checking out the credits on Genius.com for this song. 

Opeth – §1 Lyrics | Genius Lyrics

Spoken word: Ian Anderson & Mirjam Åkerfeldt. 

ProfessorPeart

#1903
August 02, 2024, 08:02:34 AM
Quote from: wolfking on August 02, 2024, 05:29:34 AMWhat does that symbol mean?  To a dumb Aussie it just looks like hieroglyphics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_sign
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on November 14, 2023, 11:17:53 AMbeul ni teh efac = Lube In The Face / That has to be wrong.  :lol / EDIT: Oh, it's Blue! I'm an idiot.
Quote from: Indiscipline on November 14, 2023, 02:26:25 PMPardon the interruption, but I just had to run in and celebrate the majesty of Lube in the Face as highest moment in roulette history.

Bentower

#1904
August 02, 2024, 08:08:21 AM Last Edit: August 02, 2024, 08:36:20 AM by Bentower
Definitely a cool track. The growls are welcome and they sound A-OK by Mikael's modern standards, but not deep and visceral like the legendary days.

This album with its track layout has all the makings of "to be performed live in its entirety". We shall see. I'll be securing a ticket for February for sure.

twosuitsluke

#1905
August 02, 2024, 08:22:43 AM
MIKAEL ÅKERFELDT On Returns Of Death Growls In Upcoming OPETH Album: "I Wanted It To Happen When People Had Stopped Caring"

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/news/mikael-akerfeldt-explains-returns-of-death-growls-in-upcoming-opeth-album/
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

MinistroRaven

#1906
August 02, 2024, 08:31:35 AM
I like it

Buddyhunter1

#1907
August 02, 2024, 08:47:41 AM
So I guess he changed his mind on all future albums being sung in Swedish, too? :lol

geeeemo

#1908
August 02, 2024, 09:09:09 AM
Here is quite a bit of info on the concept and information from Mikael. I've listened to the song several times. Reading the lyrics and knowing the concept and and outline of the story, makes it Very interesting. I am enjoying it more now with this information.
https://ghostcultmag.com/opeth-shares-a-new-single-%C2%A71-new-album-coming-soon/

nick_z

#1909
August 02, 2024, 09:12:57 AM
Background vocals by Joey Tempest in one song!  :biggrin:

Max Kuehnau

#1910
August 02, 2024, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: Bentower on August 02, 2024, 08:08:21 AMDefinitely a cool track. The growls are welcome and they sound A-OK by Mikael's modern standards, but not deep and visceral like the legendary days.

This album with its track layout has all the makings of "to be performed live in its entirety". We shall see. I'll be securing a ticket for February for sure.
yeah since it's a concept album
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

ErHaO

#1911
August 02, 2024, 09:19:04 AM
I think it is a great song. A good balance between old and new.

I am not super surprised he growls again. He sounds so much better now than like a ten year period before 2023 or so (especially around 2014 or so, see that Rock am Ring show). And he looks like he is having fun with it live, even growling at a spot where the original song does not have any when I saw them last year.

Max Kuehnau

#1912
August 02, 2024, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: geeeemo on August 02, 2024, 09:09:09 AMHere is quite a bit of info on the concept and information from Mikael. I've listened to the song several times. Reading the lyrics and knowing the concept and and outline of the story, makes it Very interesting. I am enjoying it more now with this information.
https://ghostcultmag.com/opeth-shares-a-new-single-%C2%A71-new-album-coming-soon/
oi, The Shining :D (and possibly Wuthering Heights as well, the book that is, not the piece by Kate Bush)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Evermind

#1913
August 02, 2024, 09:39:38 AM
Very solid. My interest for this album is at its peak now, hopefully it delivers. I don't want the old Opeth, but this blend of growls with his newer sound is appealing.
Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

Max Kuehnau

#1914
August 02, 2024, 10:03:42 AM
to me, it most likely will (given the lineup the band is in now)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Kram

#1915
August 02, 2024, 10:50:10 AM
Fuck yeah! I got goosebumps when he started growling lol. Super excited for this now!

Buddyhunter1

#1916
August 02, 2024, 12:40:45 PM
I re-listened to their last couple albums today, and surprisingly I think I prefer Sorceress over In Cauda Venenum, though they're very close. ICV is very consistent, but it's also a bit too drawn-out and doesn't have as many highlights as Sorceress does to me.

I'm definitely more excited for the new album than I was before hearing the single. The growls returning honestly doesn't mean all that much in a vacuum (though it was a HUGE surprise when I first heard them), but they represent a change of pace for the band that they've sorely needed for a while now, because even though I still like their post-Watershed material, I definitely think it had started to get a bit too boring and same-y.

LithoJazzoSphere

#1917
August 02, 2024, 12:50:48 PM
Sorceress is the album that I still have yet to really get into, still no real standouts on it for me yet.  I'll have to give it another try in the next few months. 

twosuitsluke

#1918
August 02, 2024, 12:59:31 PM
I love Sorceress, it's almost neck and neck with ICV. I especially love the song that sounds like it's straight off a JRPG.
Quote from: ariich on November 07, 2023, 12:38:53 PMJust popping in to say Luke, you were right.
Quote from: ariich09/07/2023, 14:25:10
luke: Pokemon – Pokemon Theme That was the best! I like Pokemon and I liked the characters. I think there was all of them. It was cool. [Have you heard that song before?] No! Score: 10 trillion

Sacul

#1919
August 02, 2024, 01:01:15 PM
I still haven't listened to In Cauda Venenum - I was kinda disinterested with prog when they began releasing their post-Wathershed records, but now that I've been warming up to those sounds again, I'll give them a try.
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LithoJazzoSphere

#1920
August 02, 2024, 01:03:58 PM
70s-sounding prog...not in English, we've found your new favorites!

ErHaO

#1921
August 02, 2024, 01:33:09 PM
On a sidenote, here is their Wacken performance from yesterday (official streaming site of Germany): Opeth Wacken 2024  :metal

The Grand Conjuration
Demon of the Fall
The Drapery Falls
In My Time of Need
Heir Apparent
Ghost of Perdition
Sorceress
Deliverance

Buddyhunter1

#1922
August 02, 2024, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: ErHaO on August 02, 2024, 01:33:09 PMOn a sidenote, here is their Wacken performance from yesterday (official streaming site of Germany): Opeth Wacken 2024  :metal

I'm glad they're not slowing the songs down so much like they were when I saw them last time.

wolfking

#1923
August 02, 2024, 05:11:56 PM
Quote from: ProfessorPeart on August 02, 2024, 08:02:34 AMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_sign


Thank you.  I guess I should have known something like this, but I did not.

Volante99

#1924
August 02, 2024, 08:49:42 PM
Well the good news is the growls are back.

The bad news is that cheesy fucking mellotron is slathered all over the damn track.

I like Mikael's weirdness (Heritage is actually an under appreciated gem in my opinion) but this song is completely devoid of a hook or recognizable melody.
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