Makes me think that this is going to be a big release. Maybe several things announced at once.

triple-album coming in 3.2..1....

I would be absolutely shocked if it was a multiple album situation.  There's no money in that.

especially given that The Astonishing had to have been their most expensive album to make (and this one is a double album)

a prog album, a metal album, and an album with only epics, because why not?

During the writing process they talked about working on 6 or 7 tracks. Unless each is 30 minutes long, I wouldn't expect a double or triple album

A prog album, yes, but not too much metal, please!

Quote from: gzarruk on August 21, 2024, 09:36:14 AMDuring the writing process they talked about working on 6 or 7 tracks. Unless each is 30 minutes long, I wouldn't expect a double or triple album

Watch it be under an hour long. 

-Marc.

Quote from: wizard on August 21, 2024, 09:37:14 AMA prog album, yes, but not too much metal, please!

Actually I'm kind of with you on this. I want them to experiment more. Perhaps pull in influences from various different genres. While I do like their more obvious metal album, Train of Thought, I think the past few albums (The Astonishing excluded) have had way too much similar sounding chugging/djent-like guitars. Bring back more clean guitars. Bring back more traditional keyboard patches or allow the keyboards to be more of an atmospheric addition instead of Jordan's usual million notes a second faux guitar lead patch. Be a progressive band again, instead of rehashing the past.

Maybe I'm in the minority on this, because I know some would rather they just stick with what's been "working" for them.

Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on August 21, 2024, 09:49:05 AMActually I'm kind of with you on this. I want them to experiment more. Perhaps pull in influences from various different genres. While I do like their more obvious metal album, Train of Thought, I think the past few albums (The Astonishing excluded) have had way too much similar sounding chugging/djent-like guitars. Bring back more clean guitars. Bring back more traditional keyboard patches or allow the keyboards to be more of an atmospheric addition instead of Jordan's usual million notes a second faux guitar lead patch. Be a progressive band again, instead of rehashing the past.

Maybe I'm in the minority on this, because I know some would rather they just stick with what's been "working" for them.

I thought especially Distance Over Time had an understated keyboard presence. I don't know. Maybe I should listen to it again. It's been a while.

Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on August 21, 2024, 09:49:05 AMActually I'm kind of with you on this. I want them to experiment more. Perhaps pull in influences from various different genres. While I do like their more obvious metal album, Train of Thought, I think the past few albums (The Astonishing excluded) have had way too much similar sounding chugging/djent-like guitars. Bring back more clean guitars. Bring back more traditional keyboard patches or allow the keyboards to be more of an atmospheric addition instead of Jordan's usual million notes a second faux guitar lead patch. Be a progressive band again, instead of rehashing the past.

Maybe I'm in the minority on this, because I know some would rather they just stick with what's been "working" for them.

You're not.

I'm not one of those that feels like I could or should tell my artists what they should do or not do. I want to hear what THEY come up with.  Some of my favorite albums of all time were my favorite artists taking a left turn that I would never have thought of.  Sabbath adding keyboards from Rick Wakeman?!?  Sounds like a disaster in the making, but in actuality?  Yes please!!!   Yes ditching Roger Dean, getting Rick Wakeman back and going towards shorter songs and a more modern sound?  In hindsight sounds like trash, but yes please!!!  Kiss ditching the New York/Stones model, getting in Peter Gabriel producer Bob Ezrin in and using choirs and grand pianos?  Put me out of my misery, except... yes please!  Genesis moving further away from the Gabriel-era crazy, using more and more keyboard compositions from Tony Banks and alienating Steve Hackett to the point he ultimately leaves the band?  Say it ain't so...but give me more! 

WTF Rick Wakeman played on a Sabbath album? I never knew that. I had to look it up. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. What's the story of how that came about?

On the whole I've been very pleased with Jordan's presence on the last 5 albums. He's never really disappointed me, but prior to that I was starting to find the noodling a bit excessive.

Quote from: gzarruk on August 21, 2024, 09:36:14 AMDuring the writing process they talked about working on 6 or 7 tracks. Unless each is 30 minutes long, I wouldn't expect a double or triple album

Well, their only double album other than The Astonishing only has six songs.  Just sayin'...

Quote from: Puppies_On_Acid on August 21, 2024, 09:49:05 AMBring back more traditional keyboard patches or allow the keyboards to be more of an atmospheric addition instead of Jordan's usual million notes a second faux guitar lead patch.

Yes, this! I hated Jordan's lead patch in AVFTTOTW, it just sounded exactly like John's lead sound. I wish he'd go back to the lead patch he had in BC&SL, that was my favourite of his leads by far. I agree also about the atmospheric additions, Derek nailed it in FII but Jordan hasn't quite caught the gist yet... Still, I have hope

Quote from: bosk1 on August 21, 2024, 09:47:25 PMWell, their only double album other than The Astonishing only has six songs.  Just sayin'...

And there's another one with twelve songs... only half of it is due covers. And an instrumental cd... so a triple album aint nothing new, really.

Quote from: Herrick on August 21, 2024, 05:11:18 PMWTF Rick Wakeman played on a Sabbath album? I never knew that. I had to look it up. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. What's the story of how that came about?

I don't know the details, but I do know Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was recorded at Morgan Studios in mid-1973, and Yes was recording Tales From Topographic Oceans in the same studio.

Quote from: bosk1 on August 21, 2024, 09:47:25 PMWell, their only double album other than The Astonishing only has six songs.  Just sayin'...

That's fair, I had forgotten about that detail.

Quote from: Wim Kruithof on August 22, 2024, 03:10:14 AMAnd there's another one with twelve songs... only half of it is due covers. And an instrumental cd... so a triple album aint nothing new, really.

But that's not a double/triple album, that's a special edition.

I love the fact that the band chose the mistery, for this futur album, because for admirors, desire is stronger.

Quote from: gzarruk on August 22, 2024, 06:55:07 AM

Quote from: bosk1 on August 21, 2024, 09:47:25 PMWell, their only double album other than The Astonishing only has six songs.  Just sayin'...

That's fair, I had forgotten about that detail.

I had forgotten about that second disc.

black clouds cover disc was better than disc 1 

Quote from: Schurftkut on August 22, 2024, 09:03:52 AMblack clouds cover disc was better than disc 1 

It was good, but let's not get crazy.

Quote from: Schurftkut on August 22, 2024, 09:03:52 AMblack clouds cover disc was better than disc 1 

Hmm, I can see where you're coming from

Quote from: gzarruk on August 22, 2024, 06:55:07 AMBut that's not a double/triple album, that's a special edition.

Should 've used green fond.

Quote from: CraftyCaleb2483 on August 22, 2024, 11:24:41 AMHmm, I can see where you're coming from

the songwriting and vocalperformances just were that much better

Quote from: Schurftkut on August 22, 2024, 11:28:04 AMthe songwriting and vocalperformances just were that much better

Are you suggesting that random bands from ages ago are better songwriters than DT?
I agree that The Odyssey was awesome though!

The covers disc was pretty good IMO. I'd love to see DT do that again as a bonus to the new album. Maybe get some takes on newer songs could be cool. 

I like things like that, in general.  But for right now, I would prefer that they stay away from that type of thing for this release.  There is already so much buzz among the fanbase about MP returning, whether it be fore better or for worse, that I feel like any extra gimmicks like that would just be a further distraction.  I would rather this first album back just be about the music.  Just a strightforward album of solid DT music.

Quote from: bosk1 on August 22, 2024, 12:08:07 PMI like things like that, in general.  But for right now, I would prefer that they stay away from that type of thing for this release.  There is already so much buzz among the fanbase about MP returning, whether it be fore better or for worse, that I feel like any extra gimmicks like that would just be a further distraction.  I would rather this first album back just be about the music.  Just a strightforward album of solid DT music.

Bosk, what % would you put on this being a Metropolis Pt.3? Have you thought about that. It's been thrown around here quite a bit.

Near zero.  Just because fans are speculating and can articulate a credible-sounding theory doesn't mean the band are even entertaining the idea, much less executing it. 

Quote from: bosk1 on August 22, 2024, 12:13:04 PMNear zero.

 

Adami

Quote from: Schurftkut on August 22, 2024, 09:03:52 AMblack clouds cover disc was better than disc 1 

That's the way I see it.

Quote from: Cool Chris on August 21, 2024, 08:40:33 PMOn the whole I've been very pleased with Jordan's presence on the last 5 albums. He's never really disappointed me, but prior to that I was starting to find the noodling a bit excessive.

For me Jordan's playing and sound peaked around SDOIT and ToT. 8V and SC and some great moments as well but took a nose dive after that.