Hahaha, good one ehra. I've got another good one:
Next time I want to buy clothes, I'm going to refuse to pay until I try them on and make sure I like them. HAHAHAHAHAHA! Wouldn't that be mad? Ohhhhh man.
Yeah, except stores LET you do that. Just like many artists allow you to sample their music, perhaps even listen to a whole album before buying it.
Bingo.
Speaking purely for myself. That's not good enough. I've had music I've listened to for years as a broke student, then I got a job and bought over 200 CDs. If I had "sampled" a couple of songs, that wouldn't have happened. All that matters in the end is that the artists get the money, and as has already been said many a time, pirates are some of the biggest spenders. And i'm in that group. Those who wouldn't buy it anyway are completely irrelevant. Those who according to you, should totally use spotify because it's so amazing and earns the bands/labels millions of pou- oh wait no, forget that bit. I'm not justifying piracy as an absolute moral, I'm justifying why I use it, and the music industry is better off because of how I use it.
The other argument, whether Piracy is stealing, is a pathetic argument that has already been legislated in pretty much every country around the world as different, and if you listen to any intelligent, reasonable person (including content creators...Notch etc.), they will agree, despite being emotionally and montarily involved. Then again, that's the popularity fallacy, so scratch that. The fact that you keep on ignoring how they are different, despite my several rather shoddily explainations, shows a lack of willingness to accept the facts. Really. Just go google "piracy is not stealing", and you'll find a plethora of far better worded explanations for why it is not. And no, just in case you had forgotten, me saying "piracy is not stealing", is not me saying "piracy is not stealing so it's A-okay folks!".
But just once more for fun.
- Stealing is taking something that is not yours, and depriving someone else of it. Copyright infringement is copying something.
- Both are illegal, but one is a criminal offence, the other is a civil dispute (in the UK anyway)
- Both are morally dodgy
- 2000000000000 copies of Yellow Submarine are stolen - there is a DIRECT, EXACT loss to the rightful owners.
- 2000000000000 copies of Yellow Submarine are downloaded from the internet - there is a mish-mash of people who (LOTS) don't give a fuck, (SOME) people who try-to-buy, and (SOME) people who might possibly buy it if they couldnt pirate it.
THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
The similarity? The stealer/pirate gets something for nothing.
The difference? The economic implications are considerably different, as can be seen when the numbers are extrapolated very highly as I did just above.
I'm done with this thread, the ignorance (of facts), blindness (to reality), and stupidity (of reasoning) in this thread is pathetic, and I would expect better from a forum of music listeners.