Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record

[?]

I guess it has run it course - I mean, the truth was already declared at the very beginning of the thread

[reneranucci]

I think Awake is their worst album. It has two really good songs - Voices and The Mirror - another couple of ok songs, and five (5!) of their worst songs: Lie, 6:00, SDV, Innocence Faded, and the most awful of them all: Scarred.

[wasteland]

I think Awake is their worst album. It has two really good songs - Voices and The Mirror - another couple of ok songs, and five (5!) of their worst songs: Lie, 6:00, SDV, Innocence Faded, and the most awful of them all: Scarred.

Good evening, Sir, and welcome to this thread. You may take place over there right next to blob. 

[reneranucci]

I think Awake is their worst album. It has two really good songs - Voices and The Mirror - another couple of ok songs, and five (5!) of their worst songs: Lie, 6:00, SDV, Innocence Faded, and the most awful of them all: Scarred.

Good evening, Sir, and welcome to this thread. You may take place over there right next to blob. 

Actually it's funny how much Blob and I coincide regarding DT. Our only significant disagreement is that I kinda like WDADU.

[emtee]

Still my favorite DT album. Took over a year to sink in, maybe more. Love the mood, the flow, the compositions, the mix...flat out
love it.

[Zook]

Any chance Blob can give a detailed summary of each song from Awake, but more importantly the last 4 songs you detest? I'd really like to know why you hate them so much. I can understand Space Dye Vest, but Lifting Shadows is an amazing ballad, and Scarred is epic. Lie is a great rocker too. Is it the lyrics of Lie, cuz I will admit that can be a bit silly.

[Ħ]

Okay, I get why people would like Scarred and Space-Dye Vest. I myself went through a phase where I liked them quite a bit.

But how on earth could someone listen to Innocence Faded and think it's a good song? It's bloody terrible, through and through!

[reneranucci]

Any chance Blob can give a detailed summary of each song from Awake, but more importantly the last 4 songs you detest? I'd really like to know why you hate them so much. I can understand Space Dye Vest, but Lifting Shadows is an amazing ballad, and Scarred is epic. Lie is a great rocker too. Is it the lyrics of Lie, cuz I will admit that can be a bit silly.

I probably was exaggerating. I can listen to SDV and kinda enjoy it, but I haven't listened to it in years and I dislike the piano sound and the samples, so I lean towards disliking it. Lifting Shadows is definitely amazing, one of my favorites in the album that I forgot to mention. Lie and Scarred I cannot stand, but I see that many people find them to be very good.

[Zook]

Okay, I get why people would like Scarred and Space-Dye Vest. I myself went through a phase where I liked them quite a bit.

But how on earth could someone listen to Innocence Faded and think it's a good song? It's bloody terrible, through and through!

Although most of the words are incomprehensible, I think Innocence Faded is great. What's not to like? It's OK to like poppy songs.

[snapple]

Awake is much better when viewed as an album as opposed to taking it in a song by song basis. I've never been a fan of just comparing "what songs do I like more" and then pick the "better" album based on that. I think there are certainly stronger songs on different albums, but Awake is perfect in length, sound and content. Every song definitely has it's place, and the order the tracks were placed in is perfect. I listen to any song and it never gets old, and never does listening to the whole album feel like a chore. Plebs, get on my level.

[hefdaddy42]

Okay, I get why people would like Scarred and Space-Dye Vest. I myself went through a phase where I liked them quite a bit.

But how on earth could someone listen to Innocence Faded and think it's a good song? It's bloody terrible, through and through!

Nothing terrible about it.  And that Dregs-influenced outro is pure gold.

[GasparXR]

Kev is right, the truth was declared at the beginning of the thread.

All the posts before this one don't exist, therefore this is the beginning of the thread.

SDOIT, SFAM, IaW, and ADTOE are better than Awake.

[johncal]

No it's not

[Marion Crane]

Awake is honestly one of my least favorites

[Rattlehead]

Awake is awesome... but better than every other DT record? That's a stretch to say the least imo 

[BlobVanDam]

Actually it's funny how much Blob and I coincide regarding DT. Our only significant disagreement is that I kinda like WDADU.

Ooooh how dare you kinda like something I dislike!

I guess we can still be friends.

Okay, I get why people would like Scarred and Space-Dye Vest. I myself went through a phase where I liked them quite a bit.

But how on earth could someone listen to Innocence Faded and think it's a good song? It's bloody terrible, through and through!

Nothing terrible about it.  And that Dregs-influenced outro is pure gold.

I've never understood the hate for Innocence Faded at all, and that's coming from me, the #1 disliker of Awake, so if there was something to dislike, I'd say so. Is it just a prog hangup about songs that are actually catchy and more straight forward?
What's not to like? It starts off with that cool guitar unison lead, it has great melodies, a catchy chorus with those nice backup vocals adding something extra, a powerful bridge section with some of JLB's best vocals (fuck lyrics. He's talking about doing his hair on Sunday or something), and a badass outro by Petrucci.

And while I'm feeling generous towards Awake, I'll throw CIAW in there too. Never understood the hate for that one either. I mean, it's a shitload better than Lie, and people seem to like that for some reason I have yet to comprehend at all.

[Polis]

That was really funny and clever. You know, how you just took the same joke that was already on my image, and simply reiterated it from the opposite side in meme form over the top of the image, as if it negates it. Bonus points for originality.

I'm glad you expect every post to be as thought-provoking and witty as yours. You are sure the epitome of rationalism to be able to point out the tragically gaping downfall of the previous poster's folly. Also, I hate you for saying that Scarred sucks.

[hefdaddy42]

Tone it down.

[Cyclopssss]

Still top 3, easily.

[Lynxo]

Four pages of nagging, and no mud wrestling over what is the best album? I am dissapoint.

[MoraWintersoul]

Four pages of nagging, and no mud wrestling over what is the best album? I am dissapoint.

Yeah I was really looking forward to mud-wrestling feeble pallid progsters who claim Awake is not the best thing ever.
Come on, ANYONE.

[Lynxo]

"Proggsters".

*takes off shirt*

[MoraWintersoul]

*takes off shirt*

[BlobVanDam]

Four pages of nagging, and no mud wrestling over what is the best album? I am dissapoint.

Yeah I was really looking forward to mud-wrestling feeble pallid progsters who claim Awake is not the best thing ever.
Come on, ANYONE.

I hate prog. BRING IT ON, LADY.

[MoraWintersoul]

Four pages of nagging, and no mud wrestling over what is the best album? I am dissapoint.

Yeah I was really looking forward to mud-wrestling feeble pallid progsters who claim Awake is not the best thing ever.
Come on, ANYONE.

I hate prog. BRING IT ON, LADY.

[BlobVanDam]

[Dublagent66]

Okay, I get why people would like Scarred and Space-Dye Vest. I myself went through a phase where I liked them quite a bit.

But how on earth could someone listen to Innocence Faded and think it's a good song? It's bloody terrible, through and through!

Nothing terrible about it.  And that Dregs-influenced outro is pure gold.

I didn't care much for the studio version but it was far from terrible.  I gained a new appreciation for the song when they played it live at Radio City on Score.  Yeah, the outro was awesome.

[Ħ]

It's not that it sounds poppy. DT has plenty of good pop-sounding songs. It's that it sounds awful.

[TheGreatPretender]

I just think the whole problem is that it follows Caught In A Web, and seems kind of redundant after something like that.

[BlobVanDam]

I just think the whole problem is that it follows Caught In A Web, and seems kind of redundant after something like that.

How does CIAW make Innocence Faded at all redundant?

[TheGreatPretender]

How does CIAW make Innocence Faded at all redundant?

CIAW is just a lot better, and they're both relatively straightforward songs. After CIAW, Innocence Faded just sounds uninteresting.

[KevShmev]

Okay, but saying they are redundant makes no sense since Caught in a Web is full-on metal and Innocence Faded isn't metal at all.

[TheGreatPretender]

Okay, but saying they are redundant makes no sense since Caught in a Web is full-on metal and Innocence Faded isn't metal at all.

I think the openings to their choruses are too similar. "Caught in a weeeeeeb!" "Innocence Faaaaded!" The first time I ever heard them side by side, I was just like, "Oh, God, is this what the whole album is gonna be?"

[hefdaddy42]

Okay, but saying they are redundant makes no sense since Caught in a Web is full-on metal and Innocence Faded isn't metal at all.

I think the openings to their choruses are too similar. "Caught in a weeeeeeb!" "Innocence Faaaaded!" The first time I ever heard them side by side, I was just like, "Oh, God, is this what the whole album is gonna be?"

[Dublagent66]

Okay, but saying they are redundant makes no sense since Caught in a Web is full-on metal and Innocence Faded isn't metal at all.

I think the openings to their choruses are too similar. "Caught in a weeeeeeb!" "Innocence Faaaaded!" The first time I ever heard them side by side, I was just like, "Oh, God, is this what the whole album is gonna be?"

Well, anybody who knows DT's style will never presume to think that the first few songs will determine the outcome of the album.  It's ok to just say you don't like a song, but don't wrap yourself around the axil trying to explain why.